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Anything related to the "culture" of the workplace. The higher ups are raking in tons of money. That's it. That's why they are doing what they do. "Culture" is

Anything related to the "culture" of the workplace. The higher ups are raking in tons of money. That's it. That's why they are doing what they do. "Culture" is to keep the workers entertained while the execs scoop up all the cash.

maxehmookau 7y ago
nah, I don't buy this. In a large company, most people _aren't_ making the big bucks and don't do it to make a fortune. They do it to make a living. The "culture" of a place, especially at a bootstrapped startup where the higher ups _aren't_ raking in the big bucks is a huge draw to someone where money is not the main reason for taking a job. For me, I'm paid well (probably 60th percentile for my location/position) but the flexibility I get from my employer which cultivates a nice culture and work-life balance is worth the cut in pay. That said, if by culture you mean ping-pong tables, free beer and massages. I'm right with you.
- malvosenior 7y ago
  In a startup the founders may not currently be making a lot of money but they have a ton of equity that they hope will be worth a lot. In a large organization the people at the top are making an enormous amount of money. My experience is that “culture” is for the people who won’t be getting rich from the company at some point. I should add I don’t consider flexible work hours “culture”, that’s a real, concrete benefit. I’m talking about the organized fun and structured loyalty attempts management puts in place.
  - maxehmookau 7y ago
    Then yeah, I think I agree. :)
jamestimmins 7y ago
Im sure this has happened, but It isn't my experience. Oftentimes companies want to make their employees happy bc they know it helps retention and hiring, and they want to be happy themselves. Culture is important and mentioning it isn't some cynical scam. The challenge for new employees is to get a picture of the parts of culture they aren't advertising. The way the company evaluates employees, pursues transparency, treats people fairly, respects boundaries, Cares about customers, cares about quality, communicates internally, etc. are the parts of culture that matter, but they're hard to determine from the website
perspective1 7y ago
I don't know about this one. Some % of culture money comes out of your paycheck but perks can make for brighter days and nicer colleagues.

maxehmookau 7y ago

nah, I don't buy this. In a large company, most people _aren't_ making the big bucks and don't do it to make a fortune. They do it to make a living. The "culture" of a place, especially at a bootstrapped startup where the higher ups _aren't_ raking in the big bucks is a huge draw to someone where money is not the main reason for taking a job. For me, I'm paid well (probably 60th percentile for my location/position) but the flexibility I get from my employer which cultivates a nice culture and work-life balance is worth the cut in pay. That said, if by culture you mean ping-pong tables, free beer and massages. I'm right with you.

malvosenior 7y ago
In a startup the founders may not currently be making a lot of money but they have a ton of equity that they hope will be worth a lot. In a large organization the people at the top are making an enormous amount of money. My experience is that “culture” is for the people who won’t be getting rich from the company at some point. I should add I don’t consider flexible work hours “culture”, that’s a real, concrete benefit. I’m talking about the organized fun and structured loyalty attempts management puts in place.
- maxehmookau 7y ago
  Then yeah, I think I agree. :)

jamestimmins 7y ago

Im sure this has happened, but It isn't my experience. Oftentimes companies want to make their employees happy bc they know it helps retention and hiring, and they want to be happy themselves. Culture is important and mentioning it isn't some cynical scam. The challenge for new employees is to get a picture of the parts of culture they aren't advertising. The way the company evaluates employees, pursues transparency, treats people fairly, respects boundaries, Cares about customers, cares about quality, communicates internally, etc. are the parts of culture that matter, but they're hard to determine from the website

perspective1 7y ago

I don't know about this one. Some % of culture money comes out of your paycheck but perks can make for brighter days and nicer colleagues.