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What sort of men? Cisgender men? Heterosexual men? Arabic men? There's no such thing as a man -- "man" an abstract concept that needs definition before any use
by doctor_m 7y ago
What sort of men? Cisgender men? Heterosexual men? Arabic men?
There's no such thing as a man -- "man" an abstract concept that needs definition before any useful statement can be made about people in that category.
- progval 7y ago"The requirement for participation [in this study] was having a heterosexual orientation and a former romantic relationship that had lasted at least 4 months." https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1948550619876633#section10-1948550619876633 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/19485506198766...
- PhasmaFelis 7y agoThe article says they only looked at heterosexual relationships, so there's that.
- moate 7y agoBut the articles title just says "men" and "women" not "straight/heterosexual men/women". Seems like a more accurate title would include the fact since you're talking about people in relation to their sexual partners.
- PhasmaFelis 7y agoIt's a title. If you want full details, read the article.
- moate 7y agoHackernews: this title is clickbait and offends me! Also Hackernews: Why would you expect this article's title to explain what it's about?! My point: Unclear title is unclear and misleading, and striving for clarity of language isn't a bad thing. If you're going to talk about science, be more clear or expect to be called out on your bad titles.
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- davemp 7y agoIf you need "men" defined for you, you're going to have trouble participating in useful communication. Use a bit of intuition.
- progval 7y agodoctor_m's question is legitimate though. "Men" is a very large group (obviously), and subgroups may have very different behaviors on this topic; hence asking for "which men?" (although they badly phrased it) And it's worth noting that the study only focus on heterosexual people, so a more accurate title would be "Heterosexual men hold more positive attitudes towards ex-partners than heterosexual women do"
- davemp 7y ago> And it's worth noting that the study only focus on heterosexual people, so a more accurate title would be "Heterosexual men hold more positive attitudes towards ex-partners than heterosexual women do" At some point you're just going to have to read the paper if you want full accuracy.
- lwhi 7y agoIt's absurd to group half the population into one group, and then try to work out what makes that group as a whole tick.
- xky 7y agoWhy?
- moate 7y agoFrom a sociological standpoint: Because you're doing bad social science. When you're talking about values/cultures, those things are inherently rooted in a culture. Saying "all men X" is almost entirely useless because there's almost always going to be a culture or subculture that makes it "most men" instead. This specific article was based off a study conducted in Austria with mean ages of men/women involved in their 20s. IDK what this says about world cultures as a whole, or even the culture of Austria as a whole. I would assume that the possibility of people late stages of life might have different feelings on the matter exists and they don't mention it as a variable they accounted for. Never mind all the other variables that one could suggest might affect this matter that aren't specifically mentioned in the abstract. And, in fact, they mention that this paper they're presenting is the first to really delve into the subject of ex-partner feelings, so their results might be completely disproved as more people look into the matter.
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- fooker 7y agoWow, I'm having trouble determining if this is satire.