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The charging system being referred to is called HPCCV (High Power Charging for Commercial Vehicles), and is being defined by the CharIN group, the same industry

The charging system being referred to is called HPCCV (High Power Charging for Commercial Vehicles), and is being defined by the CharIN group, the same industry organisation responsible for the CCS standard. Incidentally, Tesla is also involved in this effort, as part of the specification of the charging connector for the Tesla Semi. CharIN Steering Committee paves the way for the development of a CCS compliant plug for commercial vehicles with >2MW https://www.charinev.org/news/news-detail-2018/news/charin-steering-committee-paves-the-way-for-the-development-of-a-ccs-compliant-plug-for-commercial-v/ https://www.charinev.org/news/news-detail-2018/news/charin-s...

wlesieutre 7y ago
I don't know who the big players are in electric busses, but I bet this is useful for that too.
- Reason077 7y ago
  Yes! Several electric bus makers like BYD, Proterra, and New Flyer are also members of CharIN.
p1mrx 7y ago
It's nice to hear that Tesla is working on a real standard for once. I bought an EV recently, but didn't consider the Model 3 because it doesn't have a J1772 port (nor a proper dashboard, but I digress.)
- m463 7y ago
  For the model 3 - you need a small dongle for J1772 (provided). On the other hand Europe pushed back on Tesla and its proprietary charging standard and cars there have SAE charging ports instead of tesla ports. (SAE ports are dual J1772 + fast charge) I wholeheartedly agree with your dashboard complaint. Used Model S? Autopilot + big battery + dashboard.
- zaroth 7y ago
  Tesla comes with a J1772 adapter. Isn’t J1772 limited to 20kW? Why would a built-in 20kW max charging connector be a must-have specification for an EV? And the lack of the “real dashboard” is obviously one of the best things going for the Model 3. Makes night time driving in particular almost surreal. The car is extremely forward thinking and futuristic. Definitely not for everyone.
  - p1mrx 7y ago
    > Why would a built-in 20kW max charging connector be a must-have specification for an EV? The J1772+CCS DC connector can handle up to 350 kW, but even if that weren't the case, I would prioritize standardization over raw power. I don't want a car with a proprietary dongle for J1772, nor a phone with a proprietary dongle for USB. Proprietary connectors and anti-consumer and anti-competition. It would be nice if more people said no to them.
    - greglindahl 7y ago
      You will have to try pretty hard to convince people that using a small adapter IS THE END OF THE GODDAMNED WORLD.

wlesieutre 7y ago

I don't know who the big players are in electric busses, but I bet this is useful for that too.

Reason077 7y ago
Yes! Several electric bus makers like BYD, Proterra, and New Flyer are also members of CharIN.

p1mrx 7y ago

It's nice to hear that Tesla is working on a real standard for once. I bought an EV recently, but didn't consider the Model 3 because it doesn't have a J1772 port (nor a proper dashboard, but I digress.)

m463 7y ago
For the model 3 - you need a small dongle for J1772 (provided). On the other hand Europe pushed back on Tesla and its proprietary charging standard and cars there have SAE charging ports instead of tesla ports. (SAE ports are dual J1772 + fast charge) I wholeheartedly agree with your dashboard complaint. Used Model S? Autopilot + big battery + dashboard.
zaroth 7y ago
Tesla comes with a J1772 adapter. Isn’t J1772 limited to 20kW? Why would a built-in 20kW max charging connector be a must-have specification for an EV? And the lack of the “real dashboard” is obviously one of the best things going for the Model 3. Makes night time driving in particular almost surreal. The car is extremely forward thinking and futuristic. Definitely not for everyone.
- p1mrx 7y ago
  > Why would a built-in 20kW max charging connector be a must-have specification for an EV? The J1772+CCS DC connector can handle up to 350 kW, but even if that weren't the case, I would prioritize standardization over raw power. I don't want a car with a proprietary dongle for J1772, nor a phone with a proprietary dongle for USB. Proprietary connectors and anti-consumer and anti-competition. It would be nice if more people said no to them.
  - greglindahl 7y ago
    You will have to try pretty hard to convince people that using a small adapter IS THE END OF THE GODDAMNED WORLD.