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Your boss sounds like he has excellent points. I'm not sure I understand yours? You mentioned nothing (here) about "why" the company needs to grow other than

by mrlala 7y ago

Your boss sounds like he has excellent points. I'm not sure I understand yours? You mentioned nothing (here) about "why" the company needs to grow other than you seem to think you will benefit financially from it. Is that the right move for the company? It sounds like you are just trying to move toward unsustainable growth for a short-term payout. Your boss appears to be looking long term and doesn't think that's the right move. Did you propose any real ways to make the company more money, such as a new product you could design and be an integral part to get a higher salary / bonus from that? It sounds like you just went in there and said "if we market to X more people and triple the size of our company we could make even more money!" Even though you are completely disregarding the difficulties associated with growing a company so fast... all the overhead, fixed costs, and then one bad quarter/year all the sudden you have to drop 50% of your staff etc.

zelon88 7y ago
> Did you propose any real ways to make the company more money, I did. Specifically by going to confs and trade shows and networking with potential customers and/or suppliers. We don't currently do ANY of that. We have a couple cash-cow customers that we milk for most of our revenue. We do not have our eggs in very many baskets. > Even though you are completely disregarding the difficulties associated with growing a company so fast... I was brought in during a doubling where the company moved from one state to another. Growing this company and increasing it's capacity was specifically why I was hired. That focus has shifted and I'm concerned about the weaning focus on growth from management. Like I said, a few people here got very rich very quickly and I think it's taken their eyes off of the prize.
- mrlala 7y ago
  >Like I said, a few people here got very rich very quickly and I think it's taken their eyes off of the prize. What is the prize in your view? To grow as much as you possibly can and make as much money as you can? Sounds like the "prize" for your boss is a stable company.
  - zelon88 7y ago
    That's fine. More power to him. I have to stay moving foward though. He may be happy with where he is and he should be. He earned it. But I'm steadily arriving at the conclusion that if there's never going to be enough of this company so that I've got paid off 4-wheelers and hotrods in my driveway too; then it just isn't a good fit for me.
    - icedchai 7y ago
      You work for a life style business not a growth company. If you want a startup, go find one.
      - zelon88 7y ago
        From my interview... "...This company has been around for 50 years, but we're family owned and we're growing a lot right now. We're starting over in a new state so we're like a 50 year old startup! We've got that startup mentality..."
        icedchai 7y ago
        In my experience, any company that claims they are a "X year old startup", where X >= 10, is full of bull.
    - Scarblac 7y ago
      So there is your answer: consider what personal growth you want to get out of this job, get your boss on board (he should be interested in keeping you for a while longer), then move on once there is nothing more for you to get there.

by mrlala 7y ago

zelon88 7y ago

> Did you propose any real ways to make the company more money, I did. Specifically by going to confs and trade shows and networking with potential customers and/or suppliers. We don't currently do ANY of that. We have a couple cash-cow customers that we milk for most of our revenue. We do not have our eggs in very many baskets. > Even though you are completely disregarding the difficulties associated with growing a company so fast... I was brought in during a doubling where the company moved from one state to another. Growing this company and increasing it's capacity was specifically why I was hired. That focus has shifted and I'm concerned about the weaning focus on growth from management. Like I said, a few people here got very rich very quickly and I think it's taken their eyes off of the prize.

mrlala 7y ago
>Like I said, a few people here got very rich very quickly and I think it's taken their eyes off of the prize. What is the prize in your view? To grow as much as you possibly can and make as much money as you can? Sounds like the "prize" for your boss is a stable company.
- zelon88 7y ago
  That's fine. More power to him. I have to stay moving foward though. He may be happy with where he is and he should be. He earned it. But I'm steadily arriving at the conclusion that if there's never going to be enough of this company so that I've got paid off 4-wheelers and hotrods in my driveway too; then it just isn't a good fit for me.
  - icedchai 7y ago
    You work for a life style business not a growth company. If you want a startup, go find one.
    - zelon88 7y ago
      From my interview... "...This company has been around for 50 years, but we're family owned and we're growing a lot right now. We're starting over in a new state so we're like a 50 year old startup! We've got that startup mentality..."
      - icedchai 7y ago
        In my experience, any company that claims they are a "X year old startup", where X >= 10, is full of bull.
  - Scarblac 7y ago
    So there is your answer: consider what personal growth you want to get out of this job, get your boss on board (he should be interested in keeping you for a while longer), then move on once there is nothing more for you to get there.