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As a solo founder, I doubt there are any other platforms that make economic sense to support, especially if it pulls effort away from the real money makers. Dep

As a solo founder, I doubt there are any other platforms that make economic sense to support, especially if it pulls effort away from the real money makers. Depending on the market, Linux wouldn't even make sense to support for most companies and it's only supported because Electron supports it out of the box.

inferiorhuman 7y ago
As a solo founder, I doubt there are any other platforms that make economic sense to support, especially if it pulls effort away from the real money makers. Depending on the market, Linux wouldn't even make sense to support for most companies and it's only supported because Electron supports it out of the box. Well as a user I've already dismissed your app out of hand. Congrats.
- bitwize 7y ago
  If you have hungry mouths to feed, and whether or not they get fed depends on whether your app makes enough to justify the time and expense it takes to develop it, tell me you would have made a different decision. When development is your livelihood, you target the platforms that make money and only the platforms that make money. That pretty much means Windows and maybe Mac. Anything else is throwing money away.
  - inferiorhuman 7y ago
    tell me you would have made a different decision Sure. As a developer I would've used Qt (or Gtk) because even on the platforms that Electron provides, both provide a much higher quality user experience. You may not care about Linux on non-x86 or QNX or BSDs now, but you've ruled out ever caring enough to consider them. As a user I loathe Electron apps. They're slow, don't respect native mannerisms (e.g. VS Code for ages didn't put titles on windows you minimized), and horrifically bloated. I try not to use free Electron apps (Discord and Slack get used in a browser), and I would never pay for one. So there's that.
    - filoleg 7y ago
      >VS Code for ages didn't put titles on windows you minimized The fact that they eventually put it there tells me that it wasn't a fault of Electron in the first place, but fault of the designers/devs. Electron allows you to do all those nice things you love if you want to, so I don't see how it is Electron's and not designers'/devs' fault.
      - inferiorhuman 7y ago
        The fact that they eventually put it there tells me that it wasn't a fault of Electron in the first place, but fault of the designers/devs. Electron allows you to do all those nice things you love if you want to, so I don't see how it is Electron's and not designers'/devs' fault. That's not something a native MacOS application dev would ever have to think about. If Electron requires extra work to make your app behave like a normal app that's absolutely a fault with Electron and means that Electron apps will often present poor the user with a experience.
- stephenson 7y ago
  I think congrats are in order, he did not get distracted with a minor part of the market but is focused on delivering value to the bigger market. He can always add more clients later.
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AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
So really you only care about 2 operating systems, and you're willing to give up all the native integration opportunities on both of them for the minor convenience of only having to write one (bad, bloated, totally-out-of-place) GUI. Developers in the 90s often supported 5 or more different platforms. How is it that modern development is so much worse?
- boernard 7y ago
  that 'minor' convenience is a quite huge one given that he stated that the other apps wouldn't exist if not for electron.
  - inferiorhuman 7y ago
    that 'minor' convenience is a quite huge one given that he stated that the other apps wouldn't exist if not for electron. That's an awfully bold, if unbelievable, claim given that cross-platform toolkits have existed for a long time.

inferiorhuman 7y ago

bitwize 7y ago
If you have hungry mouths to feed, and whether or not they get fed depends on whether your app makes enough to justify the time and expense it takes to develop it, tell me you would have made a different decision. When development is your livelihood, you target the platforms that make money and only the platforms that make money. That pretty much means Windows and maybe Mac. Anything else is throwing money away.
- inferiorhuman 7y ago
  tell me you would have made a different decision Sure. As a developer I would've used Qt (or Gtk) because even on the platforms that Electron provides, both provide a much higher quality user experience. You may not care about Linux on non-x86 or QNX or BSDs now, but you've ruled out ever caring enough to consider them. As a user I loathe Electron apps. They're slow, don't respect native mannerisms (e.g. VS Code for ages didn't put titles on windows you minimized), and horrifically bloated. I try not to use free Electron apps (Discord and Slack get used in a browser), and I would never pay for one. So there's that.
  - filoleg 7y ago
    >VS Code for ages didn't put titles on windows you minimized The fact that they eventually put it there tells me that it wasn't a fault of Electron in the first place, but fault of the designers/devs. Electron allows you to do all those nice things you love if you want to, so I don't see how it is Electron's and not designers'/devs' fault.
    - inferiorhuman 7y ago
      The fact that they eventually put it there tells me that it wasn't a fault of Electron in the first place, but fault of the designers/devs. Electron allows you to do all those nice things you love if you want to, so I don't see how it is Electron's and not designers'/devs' fault. That's not something a native MacOS application dev would ever have to think about. If Electron requires extra work to make your app behave like a normal app that's absolutely a fault with Electron and means that Electron apps will often present poor the user with a experience.
stephenson 7y ago
I think congrats are in order, he did not get distracted with a minor part of the market but is focused on delivering value to the bigger market. He can always add more clients later.

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AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago

So really you only care about 2 operating systems, and you're willing to give up all the native integration opportunities on both of them for the minor convenience of only having to write one (bad, bloated, totally-out-of-place) GUI. Developers in the 90s often supported 5 or more different platforms. How is it that modern development is so much worse?

boernard 7y ago
that 'minor' convenience is a quite huge one given that he stated that the other apps wouldn't exist if not for electron.
- inferiorhuman 7y ago
  that 'minor' convenience is a quite huge one given that he stated that the other apps wouldn't exist if not for electron. That's an awfully bold, if unbelievable, claim given that cross-platform toolkits have existed for a long time.