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As an only semi-related aside, I've always thought it was interesting that my friends who didn't want kids when we were younger because of the responsibility ha
by ksdale 7y ago
As an only semi-related aside, I've always thought it was interesting that my friends who didn't want kids when we were younger because of the responsibility have nonetheless spent the last 10 years having dogs. Kids are far more expensive than dogs, for sure, but I feel like logistically, dogs and kids are more similar than people think.
You have to take care of a set of daily tasks to keep them happy and healthy. If you work, you'll have to send the child to daycare, which you don't have to do with a dog, but for me personally, there's some mental stress associated with leaving a dog home alone all day. Other than that, you can't just up and leave your house for longer than a work day without making arrangements for either kids or dogs. Naturally, there are certain kinds of vacations that you can't take with children, but in my experience, most people vastly overestimate how much time they'll actually spend travelling the world over the next decade or two.
Dogs have to be walked regularly enough that I don't think it's unreasonable to say that a lot of people will spend more time actively caring for their dog than they would caring for a child once the child is older than 5 or 6, at least when the child doesn't have a ridiculous amount of extracurriculars, though that's far from universal. Some kids are quite self-sufficient, though.
In my mind, the major thing that makes dogs less of a responsbility is that they don't live as long, but then no one ever just has one dog, they tend to string together 30 or 40 years of dogs, whereas kids are theoretically out of the house after 18 years.
Lest it be said that I must not have much experience with kids, I have 4 and have been a stay at home dad. It must also be said that I derive much more joy from interacting with my kids than I do from interacting with my pets so my whole perspective is certainly biased.
All in all, I think culture has instilled in us this fear that we'll ruin our children's lives if we just let them be children and that has made having children so much more daunting and intense and exhausting than I think it needs to be(though babies, I fear, will always be intense and exhausting).
- nkrisc 7y agoI'd rather have a second kid before I ever get a dog. Kids grow out of diapers after a couple of years. You have to pick up a dog's crap for its entire life. Kids eventually go off on their own and do things, get their own food, and take more and more care of themselves. Dogs will never do that. And lastly, if you raise 'em right, your kids will eventually take care of you!.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y agoI’m gonna go with: ummmmm, fucking nope. I occasionally leave my two dogs at home, outside, alone, over night. Their water is on a timer. Dogs can go days without food. You can leave a dog at home alone. Dogs can eat rotting food, including meat. Dogs can be trained to sit and wait in silence. You can put dogs in a cage for hours and they just take it and wait. If I can’t be arsed running with them I get in the car and they run on the footpath beside me for 10k. If a dog gets to ill or too physically incapable you can take it round to a mates place and shoot it in the head.
- jiofih 7y agoGood choice. You should probably not have kids anyway.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y agoI’ve got one of those too.
- duncancarroll 7y agoThank you! The comparison of kids being easier than dogs is so misleading I don't even know where to begin.
- ksdale 7y agoI didn’t say they were easier, I said that I thought the disruption to a person’s life was a lot more comparable than people think. If you’re footloose and fancy-free without a kid or a dog, both a kid and a dog will require serious lifestyle changes and will take up a ton of your attention. My contention is that people overestimate the responsibility required for kids and underestimate the responsibility required for dogs, or any pets for that matter.