> but you keep focusing on cars and ignoring other dangers with cycling: < I ride bikes a lot, I rode 7 miles this morning on those "slippery/ uneven roads". M

> but you keep focusing on cars and ignoring other dangers with cycling: < I ride bikes a lot, I rode 7 miles this morning on those "slippery/ uneven roads". Most of my friends ride bikes and we all know someone who has been seriously injured or killed by a car. If you eliminate cars bikes are extremely safe (for riders with reasonable hand/ eye coordination). The only injury type that comes remotely close to cars is mountain bike crashes or crashes while racing road bikes and those injuries are far less common and far less lethal than cars. So yeah... I focus on cars, because they are by far the single biggest danger to cyclists.