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Is there a reason why the numbers aren't scrambled? This way you at least wouldn't be able to tell the password unless you saw the actual numbers.

gambiting 7y ago
I can't imagine a more annoying feature. My bank already does this where I cannot use the keyboard to type in digits, I have to use their own on-screen keyboard that's scrambled between every digit(!!!) and I can't imagine anything like that anywhere near my phone. Either pin-based protection is good enough for you, or if you need more security then switch to full a-Z password.
- moviuro 7y ago
  Bank's security relies on reports of the past decade/century, and also, that kind of setup can't be okay for the blind users... how the hell are they supposed to interact with this monstruosity?...
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- Beldin 7y ago
  It protects against several forms of banking malware trying to steal your money. Of course, i know this because this is old stuff - at least around here. Both protections and banking malware advanced significantly since .. oh, say 2010. But since banking malware is typically focused on countries, it might be different (less obsolete) if you're not in NW Europe.
bszupnick 7y ago
Imagine how inconvenient that would be i.e. how much "phone engagement" would take a hit.
- hanniabu 7y ago
  It can be an opt in setting. But you can make this argument about having a password in the first place.
rtkwe 7y ago
It's an absolute pain in the ass for the user, especially something you're going to be asked to enter multiple times an hour potentially. I play a game that has a 'bank pin' and they scramble the location of the digits and it slows you down a lot and makes you look and think about it every time you enter it. It's a pain and I only have to enter it after 10 minutes of inactivity.
acranox 7y ago
That would screw me over. My passphrases tend to be based on a physical pattern of the keys. I can't actually tell you what my phone code is. I just know the order I push the buttons. Similarly, if I have to type me computer passphrase on a non-qwerty keyboard, I couldn't do it. I don't actually know the letters, I just know the pattern on the keyboard. If the numbers were scrambled, I'd have to pick a new system to select a password.
abandonliberty 7y ago
I had an android variant with this feature once.

gambiting 7y ago

I can't imagine a more annoying feature. My bank already does this where I cannot use the keyboard to type in digits, I have to use their own on-screen keyboard that's scrambled between every digit(!!!) and I can't imagine anything like that anywhere near my phone. Either pin-based protection is good enough for you, or if you need more security then switch to full a-Z password.

moviuro 7y ago
Bank's security relies on reports of the past decade/century, and also, that kind of setup can't be okay for the blind users... how the hell are they supposed to interact with this monstruosity?...
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Beldin 7y ago
It protects against several forms of banking malware trying to steal your money. Of course, i know this because this is old stuff - at least around here. Both protections and banking malware advanced significantly since .. oh, say 2010. But since banking malware is typically focused on countries, it might be different (less obsolete) if you're not in NW Europe.

bszupnick 7y ago

Imagine how inconvenient that would be i.e. how much "phone engagement" would take a hit.

hanniabu 7y ago
It can be an opt in setting. But you can make this argument about having a password in the first place.

rtkwe 7y ago

It's an absolute pain in the ass for the user, especially something you're going to be asked to enter multiple times an hour potentially. I play a game that has a 'bank pin' and they scramble the location of the digits and it slows you down a lot and makes you look and think about it every time you enter it. It's a pain and I only have to enter it after 10 minutes of inactivity.

acranox 7y ago

That would screw me over. My passphrases tend to be based on a physical pattern of the keys. I can't actually tell you what my phone code is. I just know the order I push the buttons. Similarly, if I have to type me computer passphrase on a non-qwerty keyboard, I couldn't do it. I don't actually know the letters, I just know the pattern on the keyboard. If the numbers were scrambled, I'd have to pick a new system to select a password.

abandonliberty 7y ago

I had an android variant with this feature once.