5 ms·

I think your point may be that he doesn't have anything private on the phone to worry about or anything that needs to be kept secure? I think the argument hidd

by dpcan 7y ago

I think your point may be that he doesn't have anything private on the phone to worry about or anything that needs to be kept secure? I think the argument hidden in the headline here is that since this is a device owned by a congressman, and allowed inside this particular meeting, it has information on it that may be confidential, and therefore needs a much stronger password. My phone has access to my email, phone number, texting. With these 3 things you can get into my bank account, access to my domains, and into any online account I hold. Then, personally and professionally, I manage other peoples' accounts, so, with my phone, you can probably social-engineer your way into those as well. My point is, if you are married, have a job, email, or have other people in your life that you don't want to go through an identity theft crisis, or get hacked, stalked, etc, you should lock your phone. Maybe you aren't the target, but you are the wide-open back door into their life.

wayneftw 7y ago
Nobody in my contacts has given me non-public contact info such as secret phone numbers, email addresses or other such info. I don't manage other peoples accounts from my phone. My passwords are stored in an encrypted file, accessible only by entering my pin. My email app has a pin lock. I don't use the browser to login to any important sites like banking sites. If you get my phone, the most you can do is order something for me on Amazon (it will be shipped to me, else you have to enter your own credit card) or you can mess with my GitHub content.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- dwild 7y ago
  You can also most probably install an application that will be able to catch both your pins and subsequently, much more data. Considering that both your password and email are protected by pins, why not have a pin on the device too?
  - wayneftw 7y ago
    Looking at email or passwords is rare. Reading some quick news, opening maps, listening to music and so forth - I don't want to use a pin to access all of those things. Someone installing an app to catch pins that I typed in and then giving me back my phone...then waiting until I typed a pin and stealing my phone again seems like a bit of a hassle. Out of curiosity though - what app in the app store allows you to do this? Or, do they have to jail break my phone to do it? I'm not really trying to argue that my way is better. I'm just giving my personal point of view. It works for me. I just don't worry about things and shit seems to work out. I leave my house unlocked all the time. Same with my car. I leave the keys in the car when I go into stores. It's just stuff. Perhaps if someone stole everything from me, I'd be even more free than I am now.
    - dwild 7y ago
      > .then waiting until I typed a pin and stealing my phone again seems like a bit of a hassle. Why would you have to steal it again? > Or, do they have to jail break my phone to do it? They will most likely have to jailbreak it. > I just don't worry about things and shit seems to work out. Yeah, sure, nobody ever said it happens often, it's for the time it happens that it save you so much trouble. A friend got his credit card stolen recently, no big deal, I'm in Canada and the bank take all the blame in theses cases. It still was way too much trouble to get a new card because the guy changed his card information and the bank couldn't validate his identity. It's not always about what you may lose, it's about what may happens to get back from it. > It's just stuff. Perhaps if someone stole everything from me, I'd be even more free than I am now. I don't believe you, but good for you if believe it yourself.
t0mbstone 7y ago
On the flip side, one could also argue that as a public employee, everything that congressman does should be on the public record out in the light for everyone to see, and that the best security would actually be zero security. This would also have the positive side effect of making it really hard for public employees to engage in corrupt and illicit behavior (which, as we all know, is so rampant that it's practically industry standard at this point).

by dpcan 7y ago

wayneftw 7y ago

Nobody in my contacts has given me non-public contact info such as secret phone numbers, email addresses or other such info. I don't manage other peoples accounts from my phone. My passwords are stored in an encrypted file, accessible only by entering my pin. My email app has a pin lock. I don't use the browser to login to any important sites like banking sites. If you get my phone, the most you can do is order something for me on Amazon (it will be shipped to me, else you have to enter your own credit card) or you can mess with my GitHub content.

deleted 7y ago
[deleted]
dwild 7y ago
You can also most probably install an application that will be able to catch both your pins and subsequently, much more data. Considering that both your password and email are protected by pins, why not have a pin on the device too?
- wayneftw 7y ago
  Looking at email or passwords is rare. Reading some quick news, opening maps, listening to music and so forth - I don't want to use a pin to access all of those things. Someone installing an app to catch pins that I typed in and then giving me back my phone...then waiting until I typed a pin and stealing my phone again seems like a bit of a hassle. Out of curiosity though - what app in the app store allows you to do this? Or, do they have to jail break my phone to do it? I'm not really trying to argue that my way is better. I'm just giving my personal point of view. It works for me. I just don't worry about things and shit seems to work out. I leave my house unlocked all the time. Same with my car. I leave the keys in the car when I go into stores. It's just stuff. Perhaps if someone stole everything from me, I'd be even more free than I am now.
  - dwild 7y ago
    > .then waiting until I typed a pin and stealing my phone again seems like a bit of a hassle. Why would you have to steal it again? > Or, do they have to jail break my phone to do it? They will most likely have to jailbreak it. > I just don't worry about things and shit seems to work out. Yeah, sure, nobody ever said it happens often, it's for the time it happens that it save you so much trouble. A friend got his credit card stolen recently, no big deal, I'm in Canada and the bank take all the blame in theses cases. It still was way too much trouble to get a new card because the guy changed his card information and the bank couldn't validate his identity. It's not always about what you may lose, it's about what may happens to get back from it. > It's just stuff. Perhaps if someone stole everything from me, I'd be even more free than I am now. I don't believe you, but good for you if believe it yourself.

t0mbstone 7y ago

On the flip side, one could also argue that as a public employee, everything that congressman does should be on the public record out in the light for everyone to see, and that the best security would actually be zero security. This would also have the positive side effect of making it really hard for public employees to engage in corrupt and illicit behavior (which, as we all know, is so rampant that it's practically industry standard at this point).