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As we have seen, "stop resisting" is a sure-fire way to have yourself turned into a chemical zombie by the state that's supposed to be protecting you. I doubt

by mmjaa 7y ago

As we have seen, "stop resisting" is a sure-fire way to have yourself turned into a chemical zombie by the state that's supposed to be protecting you. I doubt very much that the 'rational approach' of giving oneself up to the very people whose crimes you've been revealing is going to be a productive way to continue the effort of revealing crimes against humanity.

oliwarner 7y ago
> As we have seen We have? Where?
- AnimalMuppet 7y ago
  In mmjaa's fevered imagination. To him, Assange's reported lack of clarity in court is proof that the state is chemically lobotomizing him. Actual evidence has not so far been presented.
  - mmjaa 7y ago
    "mmjaa is insane" - ah, there we go, the standard response for anyone challenged by the thought that, perhaps, they're not living in as free a society as they think - especially when all it takes to get someone chemically lobotomized, is to challenge their sanity. Lets come back to this in a few months when there will be evidence of Assanges' torture by the UK on behalf of its masters in the USA, presented to the relevant authorities. Remember this: Medicating people with psychotropic drugs designed to radically alter their minds, against their will, is a crime against humanity.
    - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
      I am not saying you're insane. I'm saying you are jumping to conclusions without evidence, that is, that you are making stuff up. So I keep asking for evidence that supports your conclusions, and your response is "there might be evidence in a few months". That's... not very convincing.
      - mmjaa 7y ago
        It has been widely reported that Bellmarsh medicates its political prisoners. It has also been reported by everyone who sees him that Assange is medicated.
        oliwarner 7y ago
        Where? They're either really good at censoring Google, or you're talking out your hat. Maybe Big G's in on it too.
        mmjaa 7y ago
        Pro-Assange accounts are indeed being censored: https://classconscious.org/2019/06/29/protest-at-twitter-hq-july-8th-against-censorship-of-pro-assange-accounts/ https://classconscious.org/2019/06/29/protest-at-twitter-hq-... There is a media block (the UK can do that quite simply) on any reporting about Assange's health and conditions in Bellmarsh: https://www.opednews.com/articles/Media-Block-on-Assange-s-T-by-Raechel-Gwyn-Assange_Censorship_Cia-Torture_Defending-Julian-Assange-190628-963.html https://www.opednews.com/articles/Media-Block-on-Assange-s-T... There is a definite campaign to torture/brainwash Assange while he is in Bellmarsh, as discovered by a UN investigator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_94lj_bosc&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_94lj_bosc&t=3s
        oliwarner 7y ago
        Your link about treatment "while he is in Bellmarsh" actually relates to the psychological trauma from locking himself inside the Ecuadorian embassy. The rest is unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.
- mmjaa 7y ago
  Every western political dissident since 1950 has been subject to mind-altering chemical lobotomies for 'the sake of their mental health'. Anyone who pays even the slightest attention to the way dissidents are treated in the West can observe this for themselves. It is the norm to heavily medicate dissidents and those who proffer undesirable viewpoints against the powers that be - "he must be insane" is the standard repose for those having their crimes revealed. All you have to do, is pay attention. Julian even predicted it would happen to him personally and warned us. Look at the David Shayler case, for example. He was in the Bellmarsh brainwashing pipeline before Assange, and the same thing is happening to Julian.

by mmjaa 7y ago

oliwarner 7y ago

> As we have seen We have? Where?

AnimalMuppet 7y ago
In mmjaa's fevered imagination. To him, Assange's reported lack of clarity in court is proof that the state is chemically lobotomizing him. Actual evidence has not so far been presented.
- mmjaa 7y ago
  "mmjaa is insane" - ah, there we go, the standard response for anyone challenged by the thought that, perhaps, they're not living in as free a society as they think - especially when all it takes to get someone chemically lobotomized, is to challenge their sanity. Lets come back to this in a few months when there will be evidence of Assanges' torture by the UK on behalf of its masters in the USA, presented to the relevant authorities. Remember this: Medicating people with psychotropic drugs designed to radically alter their minds, against their will, is a crime against humanity.
  - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
    I am not saying you're insane. I'm saying you are jumping to conclusions without evidence, that is, that you are making stuff up. So I keep asking for evidence that supports your conclusions, and your response is "there might be evidence in a few months". That's... not very convincing.
    - mmjaa 7y ago
      It has been widely reported that Bellmarsh medicates its political prisoners. It has also been reported by everyone who sees him that Assange is medicated.
      - oliwarner 7y ago
        Where? They're either really good at censoring Google, or you're talking out your hat. Maybe Big G's in on it too.
        mmjaa 7y ago
        Pro-Assange accounts are indeed being censored: https://classconscious.org/2019/06/29/protest-at-twitter-hq-july-8th-against-censorship-of-pro-assange-accounts/ https://classconscious.org/2019/06/29/protest-at-twitter-hq-... There is a media block (the UK can do that quite simply) on any reporting about Assange's health and conditions in Bellmarsh: https://www.opednews.com/articles/Media-Block-on-Assange-s-T-by-Raechel-Gwyn-Assange_Censorship_Cia-Torture_Defending-Julian-Assange-190628-963.html https://www.opednews.com/articles/Media-Block-on-Assange-s-T... There is a definite campaign to torture/brainwash Assange while he is in Bellmarsh, as discovered by a UN investigator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_94lj_bosc&t=3s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_94lj_bosc&t=3s
        oliwarner 7y ago
        Your link about treatment "while he is in Bellmarsh" actually relates to the psychological trauma from locking himself inside the Ecuadorian embassy. The rest is unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.
mmjaa 7y ago
Every western political dissident since 1950 has been subject to mind-altering chemical lobotomies for 'the sake of their mental health'. Anyone who pays even the slightest attention to the way dissidents are treated in the West can observe this for themselves. It is the norm to heavily medicate dissidents and those who proffer undesirable viewpoints against the powers that be - "he must be insane" is the standard repose for those having their crimes revealed. All you have to do, is pay attention. Julian even predicted it would happen to him personally and warned us. Look at the David Shayler case, for example. He was in the Bellmarsh brainwashing pipeline before Assange, and the same thing is happening to Julian.