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> Texans have noticed that people arrive from California, and then start voting to turn Texas into California. There seems to be no awareness of the connection

> Texans have noticed that people arrive from California, and then start voting to turn Texas into California. There seems to be no awareness of the connection between policy and the cost of living. Is that actually true? They are a self selecting group, not a random sample, and probably conservative if they hold views that would cause them to leave a liberal state. The one piece of data I've seen is that had native Texans been the only ones to vote, Beto would have won. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2018/11/09/native-texans-voted-for-native-texan-beto-o-rourke-transplants-went-for-ted-cruz-exit-poll-shows/ https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2018/11/09/native-t...

mmmeff 7y ago
I lived in LA for a while and knew a few very liberal friends that moved to Austin because of the cheaper cost of living, for what its worth.
masonic 7y ago
Is that actually true? Absolutely. California was the same way 50 years ago. It didn't turn blue for most statewide candidates until 1992. A popular bumper sticker in the 1980s was, "Welcome to California. Now, go home."
masonic 7y ago
had native Texans been the only ones to vote, Beto would have won I don't believe that for a second. First of all it's a poll, not an analysis of actual turnout, and neither methodology nor numbers of pollees are given. Secondly, no way do 99% of native Texans even respond to a media pollster.
dragonwriter 7y ago
> and probably conservative if they hold views that would cause them to leave a liberal state. People move out of California because of affordability more than ideology, just like people move to California more for economic opportunity than ideology. (It's true that the realization of ideology through policy affects both affordability and economic opportunity, but people moving because of the conditions on either of those dimensions are often not motivated by ideology.

mmmeff 7y ago

I lived in LA for a while and knew a few very liberal friends that moved to Austin because of the cheaper cost of living, for what its worth.

masonic 7y ago

Is that actually true? Absolutely. California was the same way 50 years ago. It didn't turn blue for most statewide candidates until 1992. A popular bumper sticker in the 1980s was, "Welcome to California. Now, go home."

masonic 7y ago

had native Texans been the only ones to vote, Beto would have won I don't believe that for a second. First of all it's a poll, not an analysis of actual turnout, and neither methodology nor numbers of pollees are given. Secondly, no way do 99% of native Texans even respond to a media pollster.

dragonwriter 7y ago

> and probably conservative if they hold views that would cause them to leave a liberal state. People move out of California because of affordability more than ideology, just like people move to California more for economic opportunity than ideology. (It's true that the realization of ideology through policy affects both affordability and economic opportunity, but people moving because of the conditions on either of those dimensions are often not motivated by ideology.