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> The company will move more than 1,000 employees just 10 miles south of its current South of Market headquarters, which it plans to vacate. Click bait. They'r

> The company will move more than 1,000 employees just 10 miles south of its current South of Market headquarters, which it plans to vacate. Click bait. They're moving ten miles south of their current office ...

thaumasiotes 7y ago
Ehhh.... it's true that this is unlikely to have much impact on Stripe or most of the employees who used the South of Market offics. But it seems fair to speculate that it could be part of a slippery slope. And it might have pretty substantial impact on the city of San Francisco (the governmental entity).
masonic 7y ago
Click bait. They're moving ten miles south of their current office . Their new location is not only outside SF but is in a different county. SSF is a distinct city in San Mateo county.
- schoen 7y ago
  All locations south of the City of San Francisco are in a different county!
  - asveikau 7y ago
    Hmm, the airport is technically part of the City and County, while distinctly being south of it.
    - chondl 7y ago
      Actually it is in San Mateo county. Wikipedia: "the airport is owned and operated by the City and County of San Francisco, despite it being located in San Mateo County."
      - gibolt 7y ago
        Pretty sure that was covered by the 'technically' part
        vinay427 7y ago
        That's not what "technically" means. From the Wikipedia quote, it's literally not in the City and County of SF and is just owned by the government. It's very much south of the city because it's technically not in the city.
        tingletech 7y ago
        Is Hetch Hetchy technically part of the city and county of SF, even though it is in Yosemite?
      - asveikau 7y ago
        Thanks then for the correction. It is a little confusing for me that the city owns or administrates a number of sites outside of what we think of as "San Francisco". It's not been clear to me if you "re-enter San Francisco" when you go to those places. I figured yes. A number of them have signs posted at entry that the city owns it, so it feels like a natural conclusion to make, as if a "now entering..." sign.
kevincrane 7y ago
I mean, it eliminates the entire East Bay from its pool of possible employees, so that sucks for anyone who lives out there. That’s a pretty big deal for their quality of life.
- i_am_nomad 7y ago
  There is a ferry from Alameda to SSF, so that would at least allow some people to make the trip. Otherwise you’re right, that’s a 1.5 hour commute each way from major East Bay locales.
- et-al 7y ago
  Agreed, but at the same time BART needs to run more trains to Millbrae for this reason.
  - khuey 7y ago
    BART is more than 4 miles from where Stripe is moving to.
- chipotle_coyote 7y ago
  I'd agree with it being bad for the quality of life, but eliminates is a bit of an exaggeration. It makes it more difficult, to be sure, but there's a BART station in South San Francisco and a free shuttle that runs between there and Oyster Point. For anyone coming up from the Peninsula or the South Bay, though, this might be a commuting improvement. Of course, the big difference is that Stripe's current office is at the edge of SOMA and Mission Bay, within pretty short distance of the Embarcadero and Financial District. Their new office will be...a business park. No offense to business parks -- Bishop Ranch in San Ramon is unexpectedly lovely -- but they're rarely known for their vibrant cafés, restaurants and nightlife.
  - x0x0 7y ago
    Do you ride Bart? You're going from a local commute to bart -> walking to the office, to a local commute to bart -> going to a station that is skipped by 3/4 of bart lines (ie requires an xfer for Antioch, Pleasanton, or Fremont) -> a shitty bus. NB: Bart is ass and generally is too incompetent to align train and bus schedules. This adds probably at least 45 minutes each way for anyone coming from SF or East Bay locations and using public transit. It's an enormous downgrade.
huac 7y ago
SSF is much less accessible by public transit - going from a major Caltrain station to a minor/local station is a big step down.
dwoozle 7y ago
The travel times between these two locations can be 60+ minutes depending on mode and time. It is a Big Deal.
dguaraglia 7y ago
"Ten miles South" in the Bay Area might as well be "30 minutes added commute each way, if you are lucky". And that's if you already have a car, which is not really a thing with most people in San Francisco. Just to give you an idea, according to Google Maps from where I live (Hayes Valley, a pretty central area) it'd take me right now 11 minutes on a car to get to Stripe's headquarter or 33 on public transit. At the new location it'd take me "between 30 minutes and 1 hour" or 1 hour 9 minutes respectively. The driving estimation is super variable because commuter traffic in that corridor is a nightmare. So no, this is most definitely not click bait.
wbronitsky 7y ago
Why comment if you are obviously ignorant of the situation? To you, 10 miles might mean 10 minutes or less. In this situation, it could lengthen an already lengthy commute for many employees by 30 minutes or more in each direction. I know this because I worked at Stripe and commuted from Oakland to their office South of Market by car.

thaumasiotes 7y ago

Ehhh.... it's true that this is unlikely to have much impact on Stripe or most of the employees who used the South of Market offics. But it seems fair to speculate that it could be part of a slippery slope. And it might have pretty substantial impact on the city of San Francisco (the governmental entity).

masonic 7y ago

Click bait. They're moving ten miles south of their current office . Their new location is not only outside SF but is in a different county. SSF is a distinct city in San Mateo county.

schoen 7y ago
All locations south of the City of San Francisco are in a different county!
- asveikau 7y ago
  Hmm, the airport is technically part of the City and County, while distinctly being south of it.
  - chondl 7y ago
    Actually it is in San Mateo county. Wikipedia: "the airport is owned and operated by the City and County of San Francisco, despite it being located in San Mateo County."
    - gibolt 7y ago
      Pretty sure that was covered by the 'technically' part
      - vinay427 7y ago
        That's not what "technically" means. From the Wikipedia quote, it's literally not in the City and County of SF and is just owned by the government. It's very much south of the city because it's technically not in the city.
      - tingletech 7y ago
        Is Hetch Hetchy technically part of the city and county of SF, even though it is in Yosemite?
    - asveikau 7y ago
      Thanks then for the correction. It is a little confusing for me that the city owns or administrates a number of sites outside of what we think of as "San Francisco". It's not been clear to me if you "re-enter San Francisco" when you go to those places. I figured yes. A number of them have signs posted at entry that the city owns it, so it feels like a natural conclusion to make, as if a "now entering..." sign.

kevincrane 7y ago

I mean, it eliminates the entire East Bay from its pool of possible employees, so that sucks for anyone who lives out there. That’s a pretty big deal for their quality of life.

i_am_nomad 7y ago
There is a ferry from Alameda to SSF, so that would at least allow some people to make the trip. Otherwise you’re right, that’s a 1.5 hour commute each way from major East Bay locales.
et-al 7y ago
Agreed, but at the same time BART needs to run more trains to Millbrae for this reason.
- khuey 7y ago
  BART is more than 4 miles from where Stripe is moving to.
chipotle_coyote 7y ago
I'd agree with it being bad for the quality of life, but eliminates is a bit of an exaggeration. It makes it more difficult, to be sure, but there's a BART station in South San Francisco and a free shuttle that runs between there and Oyster Point. For anyone coming up from the Peninsula or the South Bay, though, this might be a commuting improvement. Of course, the big difference is that Stripe's current office is at the edge of SOMA and Mission Bay, within pretty short distance of the Embarcadero and Financial District. Their new office will be...a business park. No offense to business parks -- Bishop Ranch in San Ramon is unexpectedly lovely -- but they're rarely known for their vibrant cafés, restaurants and nightlife.
- x0x0 7y ago
  Do you ride Bart? You're going from a local commute to bart -> walking to the office, to a local commute to bart -> going to a station that is skipped by 3/4 of bart lines (ie requires an xfer for Antioch, Pleasanton, or Fremont) -> a shitty bus. NB: Bart is ass and generally is too incompetent to align train and bus schedules. This adds probably at least 45 minutes each way for anyone coming from SF or East Bay locations and using public transit. It's an enormous downgrade.

huac 7y ago

SSF is much less accessible by public transit - going from a major Caltrain station to a minor/local station is a big step down.

dwoozle 7y ago

The travel times between these two locations can be 60+ minutes depending on mode and time. It is a Big Deal.

dguaraglia 7y ago

"Ten miles South" in the Bay Area might as well be "30 minutes added commute each way, if you are lucky". And that's if you already have a car, which is not really a thing with most people in San Francisco. Just to give you an idea, according to Google Maps from where I live (Hayes Valley, a pretty central area) it'd take me right now 11 minutes on a car to get to Stripe's headquarter or 33 on public transit. At the new location it'd take me "between 30 minutes and 1 hour" or 1 hour 9 minutes respectively. The driving estimation is super variable because commuter traffic in that corridor is a nightmare. So no, this is most definitely not click bait.

wbronitsky 7y ago

Why comment if you are obviously ignorant of the situation? To you, 10 miles might mean 10 minutes or less. In this situation, it could lengthen an already lengthy commute for many employees by 30 minutes or more in each direction. I know this because I worked at Stripe and commuted from Oakland to their office South of Market by car.