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Thanks for sharing your experience. Could please describe more about subconscious emotional healing techniques? How did you learn about it and is it a solitar

Thanks for sharing your experience. Could please describe more about subconscious emotional healing techniques? How did you learn about it and is it a solitary practice or one that is guided by a professional?

Ididntdothis 7y ago
I am curious too.
- ianai 7y ago
  Me three
tomhoward 7y ago
Everyone curious about this is welcome to email me (address in profile). If you don't hear from me, hit me up again; I'm intending to prepare a doc that explains the approach I've used. I don't want it to be too long, but I just need to find the time to do make it adequate. But if you can't wait for me to do that, reading/watching content by Bruce Lipton is a good start.
- circlefavshape 7y ago
  Uurgh, dude - it's not the emotional healing that puts scientifically-minded people off, it's Bruce Lipton's language. "The subconscious mind is operating at a vibrational frequency of theta". What? That's the kind of nonsense I get from the stoners down in my local pub. If his techniques work, they work, and I'm happy for you that you have improved your life. I, however, find such language so off-putting that I can't imagine ever trying anything like this
  - tomhoward 7y ago
    Are you actually in need of this kind of help in the first place? If not, why not just ignore it and move on, rather than posting drive-by bile like this as your one-and-only contribution to the entire thread? His presentation style is not for everyone, sure. Nobody’s is. He talks in pictures and metaphors, which for many people is the most effective way to receive information. Not you? No worries! But consider that you’re only talking about persuasiveness of language/presentation for yourself, not science. The very quote you picked out to mock is perfectly valid science.
    - donkeyd 7y ago
      I feel like I'm in need of this kind of help. I have a lot of physical and emotional issues, which I'm pretty sure are related. However, that kind of language does put me off. I'd prefer if someone just uses normal language to communicate. So if you know someone who communicates the same ideas in a different way, I'd really appreciate it.
      - tomhoward 7y ago
        You're welcome to contact me for my own doc once I prepare it. I'd welcome your feedback and help in making it valuable to you. For what it's worth, I come from a mainstream scientific background, and my own view on this subject is not heavily based on Lipton's.
    - circlefavshape 7y ago
      Whoa whoa, steady on. I was interested in what you said, googled Bruce Lipton, and it was obvious to me why people who see themselves as 'scientifically-minded' would dismiss it. My comment was an attempt to demonstrate why You said "Apparently it doesn't occur to a lot of people that if mind and body are one and the same, mind activity must surely be deeply interconnected to physiology". People aren't rejecting the logic, they're reacting against the language, because it sounds like the language of a group that are an out-group for science-y people
      - tomhoward 7y ago
        > it was obvious to me why people who see themselves as 'scientifically-minded' would dismiss it Most people who reflexively dismiss the mind+body link haven't heard of Lipton. Rejection of this concept is the default for conventionally-minded people in western society, because we've been conditioned over generations to see the mind and body as separate entities (likely due, ironically enough, to religion), and consequently it's a largely unquestioned assumption in medical orthodoxy. People who are enthusiasts for modern science (i.e., devotees of Richard Dawkins, staunch atheists, etc), seem particularly resistant to questioning this orthodoxy. Anyway, it doesn't matter. My own worldview is not heavily based on Lipton's. I just suggested it to give people something to start out on, in case it takes me some time to write my own doc. Like everyone else here, you're welcome to contact me for a copy. I'd welcome your constructive feedback.
deesep 7y ago
"We know the virus is changing quite a lot. That's important for diagnosing (new cases) and for treatment. We need to know how the virus (is changing) to keep up with our enemy." [0] In 2014, while Liberia battled it's new enemy, the Ebola virus, I battled mine - Debilitating Anxiety. It had brought me to my knees, and I was angry and fed up. Two months before reading that quote, I had been thinking about "lasting change", "radical self-transformation", but just didn't know how to go about it. Change! change! change! That's all i thought about. I was following the news on the Ebola crises when i read the article and saw the quote. It got me thinking, and i immediately knew what i had to do to change myself. I knew viruses evolved, but i had never deeply thought about how it worked. Like me, this 'nasty' organism simply wanted to survive. I guessed that to change itself, it had to have low level access to the workings of it's internal structures. What if i could also do that? The more i thought i about it, the more i got convinced that it was a path worth exploring. And that's i began hacking my body through yoga and meditation. It was a very solitary practice for me as most of the people around me ( mostly religious christian folks ) considered it wired and 'demonic'. I did a lot of googling, and read books ("The body keeps the score" included) and I am happy that i had the insight to be patient and give it time. I don't know if my healing and transformation would have happened faster if i had seen a professional, but on hindsight I think my relationships, physical well being, mental health and career are in a better place now because i gave it time. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/health-31019097 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-31019097 EDITED spelling mistakes
transreal 7y ago
Here is one I know and have practiced that has helped me: https://thecompletionprocess.com/ https://thecompletionprocess.com/ I worked with a practitioner I found on the site. Here is a another that seems similar: https://www.human20.co/the-art-of-conscious-change https://www.human20.co/the-art-of-conscious-change - I haven't tried it though.
jimijazz 7y ago
Biodanza is a system created by a Chilean psychiatrist that has worked wonders for me. It's a subconscious emotional healing technique where the process is experienced with a group of people and a person who facilitates the experience.

Ididntdothis 7y ago

I am curious too.

ianai 7y ago
Me three

tomhoward 7y ago

Everyone curious about this is welcome to email me (address in profile). If you don't hear from me, hit me up again; I'm intending to prepare a doc that explains the approach I've used. I don't want it to be too long, but I just need to find the time to do make it adequate. But if you can't wait for me to do that, reading/watching content by Bruce Lipton is a good start.

circlefavshape 7y ago
Uurgh, dude - it's not the emotional healing that puts scientifically-minded people off, it's Bruce Lipton's language. "The subconscious mind is operating at a vibrational frequency of theta". What? That's the kind of nonsense I get from the stoners down in my local pub. If his techniques work, they work, and I'm happy for you that you have improved your life. I, however, find such language so off-putting that I can't imagine ever trying anything like this
- tomhoward 7y ago
  Are you actually in need of this kind of help in the first place? If not, why not just ignore it and move on, rather than posting drive-by bile like this as your one-and-only contribution to the entire thread? His presentation style is not for everyone, sure. Nobody’s is. He talks in pictures and metaphors, which for many people is the most effective way to receive information. Not you? No worries! But consider that you’re only talking about persuasiveness of language/presentation for yourself, not science. The very quote you picked out to mock is perfectly valid science.
  - donkeyd 7y ago
    I feel like I'm in need of this kind of help. I have a lot of physical and emotional issues, which I'm pretty sure are related. However, that kind of language does put me off. I'd prefer if someone just uses normal language to communicate. So if you know someone who communicates the same ideas in a different way, I'd really appreciate it.
    - tomhoward 7y ago
      You're welcome to contact me for my own doc once I prepare it. I'd welcome your feedback and help in making it valuable to you. For what it's worth, I come from a mainstream scientific background, and my own view on this subject is not heavily based on Lipton's.
  - circlefavshape 7y ago
    Whoa whoa, steady on. I was interested in what you said, googled Bruce Lipton, and it was obvious to me why people who see themselves as 'scientifically-minded' would dismiss it. My comment was an attempt to demonstrate why You said "Apparently it doesn't occur to a lot of people that if mind and body are one and the same, mind activity must surely be deeply interconnected to physiology". People aren't rejecting the logic, they're reacting against the language, because it sounds like the language of a group that are an out-group for science-y people
    - tomhoward 7y ago
      > it was obvious to me why people who see themselves as 'scientifically-minded' would dismiss it Most people who reflexively dismiss the mind+body link haven't heard of Lipton. Rejection of this concept is the default for conventionally-minded people in western society, because we've been conditioned over generations to see the mind and body as separate entities (likely due, ironically enough, to religion), and consequently it's a largely unquestioned assumption in medical orthodoxy. People who are enthusiasts for modern science (i.e., devotees of Richard Dawkins, staunch atheists, etc), seem particularly resistant to questioning this orthodoxy. Anyway, it doesn't matter. My own worldview is not heavily based on Lipton's. I just suggested it to give people something to start out on, in case it takes me some time to write my own doc. Like everyone else here, you're welcome to contact me for a copy. I'd welcome your constructive feedback.

deesep 7y ago

"We know the virus is changing quite a lot. That's important for diagnosing (new cases) and for treatment. We need to know how the virus (is changing) to keep up with our enemy." [0] In 2014, while Liberia battled it's new enemy, the Ebola virus, I battled mine - Debilitating Anxiety. It had brought me to my knees, and I was angry and fed up. Two months before reading that quote, I had been thinking about "lasting change", "radical self-transformation", but just didn't know how to go about it. Change! change! change! That's all i thought about. I was following the news on the Ebola crises when i read the article and saw the quote. It got me thinking, and i immediately knew what i had to do to change myself. I knew viruses evolved, but i had never deeply thought about how it worked. Like me, this 'nasty' organism simply wanted to survive. I guessed that to change itself, it had to have low level access to the workings of it's internal structures. What if i could also do that? The more i thought i about it, the more i got convinced that it was a path worth exploring. And that's i began hacking my body through yoga and meditation. It was a very solitary practice for me as most of the people around me ( mostly religious christian folks ) considered it wired and 'demonic'. I did a lot of googling, and read books ("The body keeps the score" included) and I am happy that i had the insight to be patient and give it time. I don't know if my healing and transformation would have happened faster if i had seen a professional, but on hindsight I think my relationships, physical well being, mental health and career are in a better place now because i gave it time. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/health-31019097 https://www.bbc.com/news/health-31019097 EDITED spelling mistakes

transreal 7y ago

Here is one I know and have practiced that has helped me: https://thecompletionprocess.com/ https://thecompletionprocess.com/ I worked with a practitioner I found on the site. Here is a another that seems similar: https://www.human20.co/the-art-of-conscious-change https://www.human20.co/the-art-of-conscious-change - I haven't tried it though.

jimijazz 7y ago

Biodanza is a system created by a Chilean psychiatrist that has worked wonders for me. It's a subconscious emotional healing technique where the process is experienced with a group of people and a person who facilitates the experience.