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I'm thinking that the Patreon-style business model becomes something, as we identify semi-reliable voices and decide to make sure the Lee Stranahans[1] of the w

I'm thinking that the Patreon-style business model becomes something, as we identify semi-reliable voices and decide to make sure the Lee Stranahans[1] of the world can keep doing what they do. [1] https://citizenjournalismschool.com/ https://citizenjournalismschool.com/

gowld 7y ago
Patronage, and donations in general, might be something, but 99% of people will choose "empty calorie" news like they do for food, because it's less effort and less short term cost and more emotionally filing than finding anything better to consume.
- bobthepanda 7y ago
  There's also a problem with patronage, which is that people may not end up producing content that would infuriate the people directly paying them. News organizations pre-Internet got around this by being too big to ignore for marketers, and by attempting to firewall newsrooms and advertising.
  - malandrew 7y ago
    > that people may not end up producing content that would infuriate the people directly paying them. that's no different from the status quo. the only thing that changes is that the people paying directly are readers not advertisers.
  - ConceptJunkie 7y ago
    > There's also a problem with patronage, which is that people may not end up producing content that would infuriate the people directly paying them. That's already a huge problem. While these are obviously not news, look at Reddit, the NBA, Hollywood and other organizations which are openly kowtowing to their patrons. Most news organizations already serve an agenda over the truth (and hardly even pretend otherwise), and identifying objective sources is harder than ever.
iron0013 7y ago
‘Former Breitbart News Executive Chairman Steve Bannon would later call Lee “the best investigative reporter in America”’ Interesting...
elliekelly 7y ago
I’m not sure Lee Stranahan can be even a “semi-reliable voice” in news. He literally works for the Russian state media. Several reputable national and international organizations have even called Radio Sputnik propaganda. Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_(news_agency) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_(news_agency)

gowld 7y ago

Patronage, and donations in general, might be something, but 99% of people will choose "empty calorie" news like they do for food, because it's less effort and less short term cost and more emotionally filing than finding anything better to consume.

bobthepanda 7y ago
There's also a problem with patronage, which is that people may not end up producing content that would infuriate the people directly paying them. News organizations pre-Internet got around this by being too big to ignore for marketers, and by attempting to firewall newsrooms and advertising.
- malandrew 7y ago
  > that people may not end up producing content that would infuriate the people directly paying them. that's no different from the status quo. the only thing that changes is that the people paying directly are readers not advertisers.
- ConceptJunkie 7y ago
  > There's also a problem with patronage, which is that people may not end up producing content that would infuriate the people directly paying them. That's already a huge problem. While these are obviously not news, look at Reddit, the NBA, Hollywood and other organizations which are openly kowtowing to their patrons. Most news organizations already serve an agenda over the truth (and hardly even pretend otherwise), and identifying objective sources is harder than ever.

iron0013 7y ago

‘Former Breitbart News Executive Chairman Steve Bannon would later call Lee “the best investigative reporter in America”’ Interesting...

elliekelly 7y ago

I’m not sure Lee Stranahan can be even a “semi-reliable voice” in news. He literally works for the Russian state media. Several reputable national and international organizations have even called Radio Sputnik propaganda. Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_(news_agency) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_(news_agency)