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All the other car manufacturers are way behind Tesla in pretty much every metric, the most important of which are energy efficiency and safety. Even the much, m

All the other car manufacturers are way behind Tesla in pretty much every metric, the most important of which are energy efficiency and safety. Even the much, much more expensive Porsche Taycan S turbo has some margin only in track driving and it will be pretty much destroyed next year by the Tesla S with plaid mode (just looking at the unofficial Nurburgring times) and the new roadster will literally lap it.

clouddrover 7y ago
> it will be pretty much destroyed next year by the Tesla S with plaid mode Why don't Tesla's current cars destroy the Taycan? I think it's fair to say that at this time Tesla's a year behind Porsche in the performance EV stakes. Here are some of the Taycan's performance test results which Tesla has so far been unable to match: - 24 hour endurance run. 3,425 kms covered in 24 hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jSG_10_JRg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jSG_10_JRg - Onboard video of their 7:42 run at the Nurburgring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m31EgQkswg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m31EgQkswg - Acceleration and handling comparison to the Model S P100D: https://www.thedrive.com/news/30467/watch-a-porsche-taycan-turbo-s-beat-a-tesla-model-s-p100d-in-a-drag-race https://www.thedrive.com/news/30467/watch-a-porsche-taycan-t... - Model S Plaid's Nurburgring results: https://www.thedrive.com/news/29946/porsche-taycan-laps-broken-down-tesla-model-s-prototype-at-the-nurburgring https://www.thedrive.com/news/29946/porsche-taycan-laps-brok... And no onboard video yet from any of Tesla's Nurburgring runs unfortunately. It's also disappointing that Tesla isn't bringing any of its current cars to the Nurburgring. > the new roadster will literally lap it That seems unlikely. To literally lap the Taycan the new Roadster will need to achieve a 3:50 lap time. The current electric lap record is 6:05 held by the Volkswagen ID.R: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3w3fVS-SgQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3w3fVS-SgQ And the overall record is 5:19 held by the Porsche 919 Evo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug
- sorenjan 7y ago
  You can add the moose handling test to the list: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/dhsofz/tesla_model_s_vs_porsche_taycan_handling_test/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/dhsofz/tesla_m...
- Gibbon1 7y ago
  > Taycan A completely unimportant toy.
- dna_polymerase 7y ago
  None of those metrics are important to average daily use. Taycan is way more expensive and the only gain is on some dumb benchmarks. Also, I'd never buy a car of the Volkswagen Group ever. They are criminals, liars and their handling of the Diesel scandal is disgusting.
  - clouddrover 7y ago
    > None of those metrics are important to average daily use The Taycan is a performance sports car. Why are you surprised that they emphasize its performance and the repeatability of that performance? It's what the car is built to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9kokeyxGU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9kokeyxGU

clouddrover 7y ago

> it will be pretty much destroyed next year by the Tesla S with plaid mode Why don't Tesla's current cars destroy the Taycan? I think it's fair to say that at this time Tesla's a year behind Porsche in the performance EV stakes. Here are some of the Taycan's performance test results which Tesla has so far been unable to match: - 24 hour endurance run. 3,425 kms covered in 24 hours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jSG_10_JRg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jSG_10_JRg - Onboard video of their 7:42 run at the Nurburgring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m31EgQkswg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m31EgQkswg - Acceleration and handling comparison to the Model S P100D: https://www.thedrive.com/news/30467/watch-a-porsche-taycan-turbo-s-beat-a-tesla-model-s-p100d-in-a-drag-race https://www.thedrive.com/news/30467/watch-a-porsche-taycan-t... - Model S Plaid's Nurburgring results: https://www.thedrive.com/news/29946/porsche-taycan-laps-broken-down-tesla-model-s-prototype-at-the-nurburgring https://www.thedrive.com/news/29946/porsche-taycan-laps-brok... And no onboard video yet from any of Tesla's Nurburgring runs unfortunately. It's also disappointing that Tesla isn't bringing any of its current cars to the Nurburgring. > the new roadster will literally lap it That seems unlikely. To literally lap the Taycan the new Roadster will need to achieve a 3:50 lap time. The current electric lap record is 6:05 held by the Volkswagen ID.R: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3w3fVS-SgQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3w3fVS-SgQ And the overall record is 5:19 held by the Porsche 919 Evo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug

sorenjan 7y ago
You can add the moose handling test to the list: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/dhsofz/tesla_model_s_vs_porsche_taycan_handling_test/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/dhsofz/tesla_m...
Gibbon1 7y ago
> Taycan A completely unimportant toy.
dna_polymerase 7y ago
None of those metrics are important to average daily use. Taycan is way more expensive and the only gain is on some dumb benchmarks. Also, I'd never buy a car of the Volkswagen Group ever. They are criminals, liars and their handling of the Diesel scandal is disgusting.
- clouddrover 7y ago
  > None of those metrics are important to average daily use The Taycan is a performance sports car. Why are you surprised that they emphasize its performance and the repeatability of that performance? It's what the car is built to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9kokeyxGU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP9kokeyxGU