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I was just watching the blancolirio channel (a 777 pilot), who previously brought up the 737NG pickle fork crisis that the mainstream media isn't reporting on.
by campfireveteran 7y ago
I was just watching the blancolirio channel (a 777 pilot), who previously brought up the 737NG pickle fork crisis that the mainstream media isn't reporting on. Combined with the 737 Max and 2010 737NG Ducommun critical structural parts deficiencies and burying of the internal Boeing blue-ribbon panel's findings, it's only cognitive dissonance and profiteering that keeps a rational person from concluding extensive and pervasive regulatory capture hasn't damaged the quality and fitness of Boeing's products and services designed, manufactured, overhauled or repaired in the past 20-25 years to an unknowably broad and deep systemic level that is fundamental uncertain to know the extent of the risk that lurks because of "self-certification" and other lax practices. Kicking out a couple of managers isn't going to fix much of anything that is already happened, like substandard spars lurking in 737NG's waiting to fail on hard landings, runway overruns and possibly heavy turbulence, leading to fuselage breakups.
I also think there's a bit of the Upton Sinclair effect in play where some Boeing pilot Youtubers including blancolirio and MentourPilot are overconfident and overestimate the quality and reliability of the equipment they fly out of sunk costs and income dependence biases.
Boeing is too big to fail, too big to jail and too big to derail. One or two products may have some minor software patches applied, but they won't ever be told to recall unsafe or defective products because they own the regulators and have outsized influence based on national strategic interests, and lots of lobbyists and campaign contributions.
- TylerE 7y agoHyperbole much? We have ample evidence...there are thousands of the things flying every day. The 737NG has one of the best safety records of any airliner in service, EVER.
- krn 7y ago> Hyperbole much? I don't think so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaWdEtANi-0&t=36m16s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaWdEtANi-0&t=36m16s
- bkor 7y ago4.7% percent with structural cracks seems awfully high. I thought planes were regularly and thoroughly inspected. Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_Next_Generation#Structural_defects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_Next_Generation#Str...
- TylerE 7y agoIt's an engineered system. Nothing in the real world will be 100% perfect, ever.
- stouset 7y agoThey are, and now this is just an additional thing that's inspected for and dealt with as part of the regular service life. Every plane you've ever flown in has had an unexpectedly high failure rate of some component that wasn't discovered until it was in service, which resulted in a modification to the published inspection/maintenance/replacement routine.
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- birdyrooster 7y ago"Combined with the 737 Max and 2010 737NG Ducommun critical structural parts deficiencies and burying of the internal Boeing blue-ribbon panel's findings, it's only cognitive dissonance and profiteering that keeps a rational person from concluding extensive and pervasive regulatory capture hasn't damaged the quality and fitness of Boeing's products and services designed, manufactured, overhauled or repaired in the past 20-25 years to an unknowably broad and deep systemic level that is fundamental uncertain to know the extent of the risk that lurks because of "self-certification" and other lax practices." I just want to point out that this is a single sentence, and it is not easy to follow.