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> You are the one making those claims as otherwise it weakens the iOS über all assertion. Nonsense. > N95 was just one example of the millions of Symbian, J2M
by sbuk 7y ago
> You are the one making those claims as otherwise it weakens the iOS über all assertion.
Nonsense.
> N95 was just one example of the millions of Symbian, J2ME and PocketPC/WindowsCE smartphones being shipped before iOS became reality.
And none of them are around now. More to the point, all but a handful could be considered 'smart'. We could debate what smart is, but ultimately it's moot. Pre 2007, 'smart' devices were by and large business oriented, post September 2007, they started to become the norm; first with iOS, closely followed by Android. These facts are incontrovertible.
The point you are trying to make is utterly wrong. The original assertion was that Apple 'invented' the smartphone is equally wrong. However, Apple did play a significant role in defining what a smartphone is, Nokia and Symbian not so much. The proof? Where are they now?
> Nokia's revenue only collapsed due to the way Elop drove the company to the ground as means to get the bonus on his contract. As the Finn press later discovered.
Elop merely dealt the final blow. Nokia's sales declined post 2008 when they peaked with a global share of ~40%. Elop Joined late 2010...
- pjmlp 7y agoNokia is happily selling Android devices, after surviving Elop's management and guess how much market share Android has worldwide. Apparently everyone on Europe was a business person when using Nokia and Sony phones, go figure.
- sbuk 7y agoStop being obtuse. And stop banging about Europe and phones. You blatantly haven’t got a clue.
- jdhendrickson 7y agoIs this comment really contributing to the conversation?
- dang 7y agoPersonal attacks will get you banned here. Could you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended?