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I don't know how much Dieselgate has affected VW's bottom line but what I do know is that as a consequence of the scandal: - new cars now come with 6 years war

by d1zzy 7y ago

I don't know how much Dieselgate has affected VW's bottom line but what I do know is that as a consequence of the scandal: - new cars now come with 6 years warranty which is more than anything anywhere in that price range - their second hand car program is great, includes 2 years of manufacturer warranty. Last time I wanted to buy a compact I very seriously considered getting a 2015 VW Golf diesel, it includes all future required updates to reduce harmful emissions and it has all the nice advantages of a diesel (high torque, low RPM, nicer IMO engine noise). I ended up deciding against it because the newest VW diesel is 2015 and they started supporting Apple Car/Android Auto in 2016 models. All in all like I said I don't know if Dieselgate hit their bottom line but around here it seems the streets have a lot more VW cars (a lot of e-Golfs too) since the scandal. No wonder since their cars are now such a great deal.

NikolaNovak 7y ago
Interesting - for context, can you share where these policies are in place? I don't believe the 6y new / 2y used is in place where I'm at.
- beefalo 7y ago
  I recently bought a Golf GTI in the US, bay area. It had 5k miles and still has the 6 year new car warranty plus 2 year cpo warranty so warrantied until 2017.
windsurfer 7y ago
When your sales revenue is $260 billion, something costing $30 billion is a significant chunk.
OnlineGladiator 7y ago
> - new cars now come with 6 years warranty which is more than anything anywhere in that price range As someone who took advantage of this deal, this no longer applies starting in 2020. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/08/01/volkswagen-6-year-warranty-gone-4-year-warranty-in-what-means/1885042001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/08/01/volkswa... Also it's fairly well known that 2019 GTIs (a pretty popular car) has a serious defect that has already started the process to begin a formal recall. It's believed that VW modified the car to meet emissions standards, and essentially broke the car in the process so badly they can't fix it. Most dealerships just buy back the car if you mention the problem. https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showpost.php?p=835026&postcount=1441 https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showpost.php?p=835026&postcou... So I feel like VW is still doing some shady shit regarding dieselgate.
- richardw 7y ago
  I just paid around $3000 to replace pistons on a golf 7 with 73000km. Supposedly they know it's a fault but no local support aside from reducing the parts price. Initial quote was around $4000. Not loving VW. Never buying another until it's electric.
  - OnlineGladiator 7y ago
    Was it under warranty? Old cars being unreliable may make VW a questionable choice for some, but what I'm talking about are brand new cars with a factory defect that makes them unsafe to drive. It's roughly equivalent to the ignition key fiasco GM faced a few years ago (or at least that is my take based on the limited information I have).

by d1zzy 7y ago

NikolaNovak 7y ago

Interesting - for context, can you share where these policies are in place? I don't believe the 6y new / 2y used is in place where I'm at.

beefalo 7y ago
I recently bought a Golf GTI in the US, bay area. It had 5k miles and still has the 6 year new car warranty plus 2 year cpo warranty so warrantied until 2017.

windsurfer 7y ago

When your sales revenue is $260 billion, something costing $30 billion is a significant chunk.

OnlineGladiator 7y ago

> - new cars now come with 6 years warranty which is more than anything anywhere in that price range As someone who took advantage of this deal, this no longer applies starting in 2020. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/08/01/volkswagen-6-year-warranty-gone-4-year-warranty-in-what-means/1885042001/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/08/01/volkswa... Also it's fairly well known that 2019 GTIs (a pretty popular car) has a serious defect that has already started the process to begin a formal recall. It's believed that VW modified the car to meet emissions standards, and essentially broke the car in the process so badly they can't fix it. Most dealerships just buy back the car if you mention the problem. https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showpost.php?p=835026&postcount=1441 https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showpost.php?p=835026&postcou... So I feel like VW is still doing some shady shit regarding dieselgate.

richardw 7y ago
I just paid around $3000 to replace pistons on a golf 7 with 73000km. Supposedly they know it's a fault but no local support aside from reducing the parts price. Initial quote was around $4000. Not loving VW. Never buying another until it's electric.
- OnlineGladiator 7y ago
  Was it under warranty? Old cars being unreliable may make VW a questionable choice for some, but what I'm talking about are brand new cars with a factory defect that makes them unsafe to drive. It's roughly equivalent to the ignition key fiasco GM faced a few years ago (or at least that is my take based on the limited information I have).