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You must not play much PC. EVERY PC game has cheaters these days.

reificator 7y ago
Again, I'd have more sympathy if I hadn't been called a cheater myself so many times for shooting the other dude before they shot me. I don't think most people know how to evaluate who is cheating and who is not, and it's taken as fact that cheaters are rampant so claims of cheating are believed by default. I'm definitely not saying that cheats don't exist, or that people don't use them. I'm saying the community at large appears to have jumped on the problem as a way to save face. "Oh he beat me, but it's only because he's wallhacking!"
- GhettoMaestro 7y ago
  To be clear, I am not calling all the god-like players I get owned by hackers. However, I am calling the god-like players who own me hackers, when I watch their kill-cam jump rapidly to each persons head with absolutely precision shot for shot. It gets into an area of response time where the human feedback loop takes longer than the response-and-inputs being delivered.
PhasmaFelis 7y ago
I've got like 800 hours in TF2, and I've seen noticeable cheaters maybe 3 times. Getting accused of being a cheater is actually more common. One time some guy spent 10 minutes frantically trying to convince everyone that I was aimbotting...on Pyro. I wasn't even doing that well.
- reificator 7y ago
  I mean, human beings are incapable of pressing W and Mouse1 simultaneously, you'd have to have used an aimbot to play Pyro well. That's exactly what I'm talking about though. The fact that cheats exist is used to save face when people are losing (or even not winning by a large enough margin) in a video game. It's okay to lose in a video game. I do it all the time. There's no shame, you don't have to make excuses, it's a game.
- GhettoMaestro 7y ago
  Fair point. I have noticed very little cheating in VAC-secured (Valve Anti-Cheat) games. Most of the times it is something like Call of Duty, PUBG, or even Fortnite (but less so than PUBG by a huge magnitude). Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) is probably one of the best anti-cheat technologies out there given the size of the user-base and the time it has been deployed.

Again, I'd have more sympathy if I hadn't been called a cheater myself so many times for shooting the other dude before they shot me. I don't think most people know how to evaluate who is cheating and who is not, and it's taken as fact that cheaters are rampant so claims of cheating are believed by default. I'm definitely not saying that cheats don't exist, or that people don't use them. I'm saying the community at large appears to have jumped on the problem as a way to save face. "Oh he beat me, but it's only because he's wallhacking!"

GhettoMaestro 7y ago
To be clear, I am not calling all the god-like players I get owned by hackers. However, I am calling the god-like players who own me hackers, when I watch their kill-cam jump rapidly to each persons head with absolutely precision shot for shot. It gets into an area of response time where the human feedback loop takes longer than the response-and-inputs being delivered.

PhasmaFelis 7y ago

I've got like 800 hours in TF2, and I've seen noticeable cheaters maybe 3 times. Getting accused of being a cheater is actually more common. One time some guy spent 10 minutes frantically trying to convince everyone that I was aimbotting...on Pyro. I wasn't even doing that well.

reificator 7y ago
I mean, human beings are incapable of pressing W and Mouse1 simultaneously, you'd have to have used an aimbot to play Pyro well. That's exactly what I'm talking about though. The fact that cheats exist is used to save face when people are losing (or even not winning by a large enough margin) in a video game. It's okay to lose in a video game. I do it all the time. There's no shame, you don't have to make excuses, it's a game.
GhettoMaestro 7y ago
Fair point. I have noticed very little cheating in VAC-secured (Valve Anti-Cheat) games. Most of the times it is something like Call of Duty, PUBG, or even Fortnite (but less so than PUBG by a huge magnitude). Valve Anti-Cheat (VAC) is probably one of the best anti-cheat technologies out there given the size of the user-base and the time it has been deployed.