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Yea, the Bull Moose is one of my heroes. But I'm also not blind to reality. The benefit he had in his days of trust bustin' was the fact the general populace ne
by corodra 7y ago
Yea, the Bull Moose is one of my heroes. But I'm also not blind to reality. The benefit he had in his days of trust bustin' was the fact the general populace never worshiped the old business titans like the second coming of Jesus. These days, people with open arms and open hearts say, "Yes! Please! Exploit my data and ruin the market with monopolistic practices because you said you love us and you say nice things about the poor and wanting to save the planet." Then they cry foul when it's too fucking late.
The point to reading history is to learn from the past so the same mistakes are not made again. Something people STILL don't understand. Nothing here about WeWork or Amazon or Apple is new. New market, sure. New business practices? Hell no. Exploit workers. Exploit consumers. Exploitative contract verbiage. Exploit and lobby the government. Bullshit self-interest deals. Nothing new at all. But even here on HN where it's supposed to be a bunch of smart guys, they all jump like lions on the kill whenever someone mentions one of these silicon valley asses are up to no good. They start reciting whatever xyz fallacy they saw in an article to pretend like their dismissal holds water. Take a look back into earlier this year on HN about WeWork. Some folks were talking about how over valued the company was and it was a silly business model to begin with due to their PR pushes. It wasn't going to hold. Oh no, just a bunch of baby boomers, racists, and uneducated collegeless plebs who don't understand how tech works. They don't know what they're talking about. Let's throw confirmation bias into their face. Hell, the Theranos discussions were even worse before they got exposed. All a bunch of misogynist racist assholes if you questioned the validity of any claims made by Holmes. For a group of people that claim to believe in science and evidence, it's a rather emotionally driven community that uses pop-psychology, middle-school level debate tactics and mass numbers to push weak agendas.
There's a part of me that just thinks, "Fuck it all. Let it burn." But I figure if I go on these rants every now and then, someone else who doesn't believe the hype machine, but feels alone in that, might get a sense of "Well, I'm not completely alone in thinking this company/person is an asshole."
But what really makes me mad, no one here can rightfully claim that if they were in that dude's position with WeWork, that they would do any different. But oh, "How could this happen? Shame on them! Shame! Shame!" You're really going to claim that you entered STEM if it had the same employment prospects as a someone who majors in philosophy or art? Maybe they would have tried to negotiate for an even $2b. I'll take that claim of doing something different and shaming the guy for settling under $2b. But if you had the ability to legally walk away with $1b+ from a company you are the founder of, and you know it won't hold water for too long, you wouldn't take it? People illegally walk away with far less money.
- hos234 7y ago:) What can I tell ya - human nature! We all have weaknesses individually and a different bunch when in groups. The first time I saw a large cheque waved in front of me, I fell for it hook line and sinker :) Having lived through the dotcom bust/2008 financial crash and all kinds of other events, all I know is Learning takes time. I had to fall and be miserable to learn. The second time around I didn't take the cheque. I had to also learn financial independence gave me choices. And lots of people don't have choices. All that creates conditions for the contradictions we see. But things change. The world is not static. I also learnt the hard way, naming/shaming/comparing/judging etc is not the most effective in speeding up that Learning process. It creates more defensiveness and counter reactions that drain energy further. There are better routes to create understanding. Search for them and redirect that passion in your comment into those routes.