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You're selectively choosing where you get your information which is the real crux of the problem; there is no "news" anymore, only opinions and narratives put f

You're selectively choosing where you get your information which is the real crux of the problem; there is no "news" anymore, only opinions and narratives put forth for political and financial gain. The comment elsewhere in this thread about the failure of the 4th estate is the relevant one.

mr_overalls 7y ago
There is a big difference between 1) admitting difficulty in discerning a more-or-less truthful version of events, and 2) simply throwing up your hands at the idea of objective truth. And why, if all "news" is simply fact-free narrative, have you chosen to believe the the Trumpian narrative? Do you believe that all news that casts a negative light on POTUS is simply fabricated?
duxup 7y ago
> there is no "news" anymore Yes there is, and there are facts and truth.
- jessaustin 7y ago
  "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS." -- Leslie Moonves News is what it is. Facts and truth may be found but not by turning on the TV. Journalists working by themselves and for themselves still exist. We have to seek them out; they don't get any airtime with billion dollar media conglomerates. NBC News employs a Bush daughter, and previously employed a Clinton daughter in one of those no-show jobs that the mafia loves. A McCain daughter is at ABC news, but they make her appear on "The View" so that may not be such a great deal. The Vanderbilt scion figurehead at CNN is a former CIA recruit. ("Mr. Cooper, we feel your talents would be more suited to a slightly different role with our agency.") When retired admirals and generals appear on the shows as respected experts, their management roles and board membership at armaments manufacturers is not disclosed.
crispyambulance 7y ago
> ...there is no "news" anymore, only opinions and narratives put forth for political and financial gain. "News" isn't a product you can just take out of the box and use. "Some assembly is required" and that's what citizens are expected to do (unless they're graduates of Trump "University", I guess).
asdfman123 7y ago
Everything is a narrative. The problem in this day and age is we can't agree on compatible narratives. There are truths, but there is no objective political truth.

mr_overalls 7y ago

There is a big difference between 1) admitting difficulty in discerning a more-or-less truthful version of events, and 2) simply throwing up your hands at the idea of objective truth. And why, if all "news" is simply fact-free narrative, have you chosen to believe the the Trumpian narrative? Do you believe that all news that casts a negative light on POTUS is simply fabricated?

duxup 7y ago

> there is no "news" anymore Yes there is, and there are facts and truth.

jessaustin 7y ago
"It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS." -- Leslie Moonves News is what it is. Facts and truth may be found but not by turning on the TV. Journalists working by themselves and for themselves still exist. We have to seek them out; they don't get any airtime with billion dollar media conglomerates. NBC News employs a Bush daughter, and previously employed a Clinton daughter in one of those no-show jobs that the mafia loves. A McCain daughter is at ABC news, but they make her appear on "The View" so that may not be such a great deal. The Vanderbilt scion figurehead at CNN is a former CIA recruit. ("Mr. Cooper, we feel your talents would be more suited to a slightly different role with our agency.") When retired admirals and generals appear on the shows as respected experts, their management roles and board membership at armaments manufacturers is not disclosed.

crispyambulance 7y ago

> ...there is no "news" anymore, only opinions and narratives put forth for political and financial gain. "News" isn't a product you can just take out of the box and use. "Some assembly is required" and that's what citizens are expected to do (unless they're graduates of Trump "University", I guess).

asdfman123 7y ago

Everything is a narrative. The problem in this day and age is we can't agree on compatible narratives. There are truths, but there is no objective political truth.