> To me the real problem is how effectively the government has kept this subject from creeping into the public debate. Well you are on a technical discussion b

> To me the real problem is how effectively the government has kept this subject from creeping into the public debate. Well you are on a technical discussion board. There are many people here who are in the position Snowden described there. You can bring your brick to this discussion without having to become a hero as he said. This would push a public debate if you'd kept it up. Why isn't it happening? Maybe the government doesn't have to do anything at all and it's still not happening. "You can't awaken somebody who pretends to be asleep" goes for all sides.