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I disagree. There is no need for a "balancing act" between cars and public transport. More public transport and less cars is always an improvement.
by cyborgx7 7y ago
I disagree. There is no need for a "balancing act" between cars and public transport. More public transport and less cars is always an improvement.
- bluGill 7y agoEventually that isn't practical though. You cannot take a pallet of anything on any sort of transit and never will, it will always be delivered on non-public systems. Your new couch has the same problem. Train tracks to your front door are easy to imagine, but the flexibility of roads (with cars and trucks on it) is a lot more cost effective.
- cyborgx7 7y agoThis is a silly thing to jump towards in the discussion, since it's not like we are anywhere close to the situation in which we have next to no private transport. In fact, we are almost at the other extreme. But if I was to indulge you, I would say that public transport doesn't mean rails. In the case of buses it also uses roads. And of course, if we were to abolish all motorized private person transport (again, no where even close to that) of course there would need to be a system to allow for the transport of items that are too big to be transported by individuals in public transport. I assumed that goes without saying.
- bluGill 7y agoI didn't jump there. The parent statement is "More public transport and less cars is always an improvement" jumped there.
- cyborgx7 7y agoPretty sure that was you.
- CDSlice 7y ago> I disagree. There is no need for a "balancing act" between cars and public transport. More public transport and less cars is always an improvement. Sound familiar?
- cyborgx7 7y agoI'm not denying that this was a quote from me. I'm denying that this is what brought it into this weird theoretical extreme area. You also haven't responded to my response yet. You just ignored it and are trying to derail the discussion with a meta argument. Unless you are going to address the actual content of the arguments, I'm done with this conversation.
- khafra 7y agoDrone delivery for all last-mile problems. In fact, I want to buckle on a harness, and have an Amazon quadcopter carry me from the train station to the front door of my house.
- chapium 7y agoPublic logistics for consumer freight would be pretty awesome actually.
- cyborgx7 7y agoWhen I was moving a year and a half ago, without a car something like that would have come in handy. Every one or 2 weeks I would see a piece of second-hand furniture I could have used, but had no way of getting it to my new home. I could have payed for the furniture, but didn't have the money for movers or to rent a truck every time I found something.
- eMSF 7y agoWhich is why you shouldn't be making the decisions.
- cyborgx7 7y agoHow silly of me. We should definitely organize MORE of our society around the needs of car owners. /s
- criddell 7y agoWe should organize society however we the people want. That means a bottom-up rather than top-down approach that will vary greatly depending on local demographics, climate, etc... All of us think we know what is needed, but the reality is different ideas need to be floated and we vote for the solution we want to see for our area.
- cyborgx7 7y agoWhat kind of non-argument is that? Of course we should organize society however we want. That is why I'm trying to persuade people into agreeing with me on what the right way to organize society is.
- criddell 7y agoMy point is that it's a little pointless to argue on global forum like HN because it's such a local issue. You don't need to convince anybody here, it's the people in your local community that are going to make the change.