> BTW how many people use a bike is a useless metric, how far they travel and for how much time is more important. As a Dutch person: what you're forgetting is

> BTW how many people use a bike is a useless metric, how far they travel and for how much time is more important. As a Dutch person: what you're forgetting is that often the entire design of a city accommodates using bikes. Meaning: everything you might need is close by. Further, the more people use a bike, the more people are aware of people on a bike. The same people who use a car also use a bike (at least in Netherlands and Denmark). For Rome, the city is designed in a weird way. Cycling there is awful. Further, the traffic lights are utterly terrible. You're waiting way too long (though this is the case in pretty much most countries in the world). When infrastructure is designed in The Netherlands the impact is assessed on public transports, roads, cycling infrastructure, etc. That determines where office space is put, etc. Now for Netherlands there's millions using public transportation, also e.g. using a train. The bike storage areas around the big train stations are massive. Notice how I mentioned that Dutch people are using bikes, cars, public transport? There's not 1 solution or something that's bad/good as you make it out to be.