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> Ask the Dutch. How do they do it? Or do you assume they do not have young kids or grandmas? They do it the dutch way. Things you wouldn't do anywhere else,
by walterstucco 7y ago
> Ask the Dutch. How do they do it? Or do you assume they do not have young kids or grandmas?
They do it the dutch way.
Things you wouldn't do anywhere else, like leaving babies in their strollers in the streets outside shops when they go shopping.
Denmark is really a big village.
Source: my girlfriend family is Danish and I had saw them last time 4 days ago.
> * Trains to rural areas
It's more easily said than done.
Rural areas are also resistant to things that would make the area less rural, like high speed train.
Look at the fights happening in northern Italy against the TAV (the Italian version of the TGV)
> * Park-and-ride garages for people to drive in, and park next to transportation hubs
Many cities in old Europe cannot do that. Think about the central areas of Paris, Rome, Milan, Madrid.
And those that could are reluctant to do it, because it would immediately lower the value of the buildings around.
Imagine you bought a house for 100 and its value drops to 70 because they made a giant parking lot just below your window.
> * Underground parking garages at the edges of pedestrian zones, or even underneath them, coming up directly above them
In most cities in old Europe digging is very costly and sometimes impossible (most Italian cities for example)
> * Ubiquitous bike storage and bike attachments such that yes,
That would steal space to pedestrian transit
> a mom with 3 young kids can tow them from a single bike - moms in Amsterdam and Berlin do it all the time.
Compare the average street in Berlin[1] or Amsterdam[2] with those of Milan[3]
You will immediately notice a few things: in Milan trams railways are in the middle of the street, they are very slippery and dangerous for bikers; Berlin sidewalks are much larger on average; much of the transport in Amsterdam happens along canals, where cars are usually not allowed.
Things are in a certain way not because people are simply stupid or ignorant, but because the surrounding environment poses a lot of limits.
[1] https://lets-travel-more.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Rykestra%C3%9Fe-Street-1.jpg https://lets-travel-more.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Ryke...
[2] https://i2.wp.com/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Red-Light-District-Facts.jpg?resize=800%2C533 https://i2.wp.com/www.amsterdamredlightdistricttour.com/wp-c...
[3] https://live.staticflickr.com/205/495030650_6d7bf355b8_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/205/495030650_6d7bf355b8_b.jpg
- AllegedAlec 7y ago> They do it the dutch way. > Denmark is really a big village. ?????
- walterstucco 7y agoPopulation of Denmark is more or less the same since the 70s. Since the 90s birth rate and death rate are almost exactly the same, no growth, no decrease. The only growth has been due to immigration. It has the same population of Italian Lazio, but on a 3 times bigger area. Copenhagen, the capital, hosts 10% of the population, with a crazy 6.800 people per sq. km, 45x the average population density. In contrast Lombardy in Italy, one of the most productive areas of the country, host 10 million people (1/6th or 17% of the Italian population) has 450 people per sq. km and Milan, the most productive city in Italy, has 2.000 people per sq. km. They are divided in age groups that are almost of the same size https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Denmarkpop.svg/525px-Denmarkpop.svg.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/De... These are all characteristics of village communities. - Size of the Community: communities are smaller in area than the urban communities. The second city of Denmark is 5 times smaller than Copenhagen, the 5th is 20 times smaller. Only the first 10 cities of Denmark have more than 50k inhabitants. - Density of Population: The density of population is low, except in the rare urban areas. - Homogeneity of Population: most of the people living in village communities are related (90% of the danish people have Danish parents), most of the non Danish population lives in Copenhagen.