The reason that flame war topics tend to become reiterative is that they tend to follow the same path. Someone bring up the argument that "introducing people t

The reason that flame war topics tend to become reiterative is that they tend to follow the same path. Someone bring up the argument that "introducing people that look different magically automatically leads to better performing teams". Someone counter with "it's diverse views increase creativity". The naturally reply is then: No organization that promotes diversity care about diversity in views. One one care if an employee is nudist as long they follow the dress code, and if they don't they get fired. The wast majority of diversity seeking companies do not care about economic background. Universities do not want equal outcome in terms of political diversity in professors. > One reason why females are being paid less overall is because they're leaving higher paying jobs, due to harmful behavior ... It's a boys club ... "not being taken seriously" Which I always respond by saying that in Sweden about 85% of both women and men work in a gender segregated work place. Men leave the same rate female dominated industries as women leave male dominated industries. The same "leaky" pipe concept that people use to describe the tech industry is used in the teaching profession, with men leaving at a significant higher rate in all stages. By the age of 50 almost all men has quit the profession by either changing profession or moving to a more male dominated sector like after-school activities. Reading the research into that you can almost substitute papers from the tech industry and just cross over male and write female. "not being taken seriously"? Checked. Toxic environment? Checked. Sexual harassment? Checked. Bullying? Checked. There is a yearly survey here in Sweden over work safety, and last year the profession with highest sexual harassment and bullying rate for a minority gender was nursing, switching place with construction which went from being #1 to #2. There was a few news articles that noted the change. Then we have the question of pay differences, the complete lack of census on how it should be calculated, employee retention, society reaction to choosing a low vs high paying job, and more.