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Leaving the AppStore doesn’t mean they can’t create MacOS applications. Most MacOS applications aren’t even installed via the AppStore.

pjmlp 7y ago
If they want to sell them on Catalina and newer devices they surely need to follow similar steps anyway, while paying for infrastructure themselves. https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=09032019a https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=09032019a
- scarface74 7y ago
  You don’t have to have a paid developer account for app signing, your app is never reviewed by a human, and Apple doesn’t get a cut of your app sales. So how is it “similar”?
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    > Please note that you must be the Account Holder of your development team in the Apple Developer Program. https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/ https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/ > You can only notarize apps that you sign with a Developer ID certificate. If you use any other certificate—like a Mac App Distribution certificate, or a self-signed certificate—notarization fails https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizing_your_app_before_distribution/resolving_common_notarization_issues https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizin... That similar.
    - hellofunk 7y ago
      You can have an Apple developer account without paying for it, there’s a free tier, and I think that is allowed for what your parent is referring to.
      - pjmlp 7y ago
        I have an Apple developer account...
        hellofunk 7y ago
        So do I and I don't pay for it, and I can sign my apps. What's different in your case?
        pjmlp 7y ago
        So now developer certificates are available on the free tier?
        hellofunk 7y ago
        For at least a few years, they have been. You can set a team and a signing certificate in Xcode with a normal developer account, which does not require any payment. To publish on the App Store, however, requires a paid account. Sounds like you don't use that dev account much :)
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pjmlp 7y ago

If they want to sell them on Catalina and newer devices they surely need to follow similar steps anyway, while paying for infrastructure themselves. https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=09032019a https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=09032019a

scarface74 7y ago
You don’t have to have a paid developer account for app signing, your app is never reviewed by a human, and Apple doesn’t get a cut of your app sales. So how is it “similar”?
- pjmlp 7y ago
  > Please note that you must be the Account Holder of your development team in the Apple Developer Program. https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/ https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/ > You can only notarize apps that you sign with a Developer ID certificate. If you use any other certificate—like a Mac App Distribution certificate, or a self-signed certificate—notarization fails https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizing_your_app_before_distribution/resolving_common_notarization_issues https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizin... That similar.
  - hellofunk 7y ago
    You can have an Apple developer account without paying for it, there’s a free tier, and I think that is allowed for what your parent is referring to.
    - pjmlp 7y ago
      I have an Apple developer account...
      - hellofunk 7y ago
        So do I and I don't pay for it, and I can sign my apps. What's different in your case?
        pjmlp 7y ago
        So now developer certificates are available on the free tier?
        hellofunk 7y ago
        For at least a few years, they have been. You can set a team and a signing certificate in Xcode with a normal developer account, which does not require any payment. To publish on the App Store, however, requires a paid account. Sounds like you don't use that dev account much :)
- deleted 7y ago
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