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Is climate change really tied to wealth inequality or are you just looking for a way to rationalize your blood lust?

crispinb 7y ago
Well it's tied in one direction: poorer populations will suffer for the material benefit of richer ones. My nation is quite explicit about this - our government is on record as being happy for Pacific nations to lose their land as long as Australia continues 'economic growth'. And we'll even allow them to labour for us in exchange! The other direction is conceivable: more equal populations may be less liable to vanity status purchases, and less resistant to equitably-distributed change. Perhaps hard to prove either way. Anyway, that's not much to do with my comment which was merely noting that disaster capitalists trying to make trillions from climate change may meet mass resistance. As for my alleged blood lust - well I doubt the discontent will result in many billionaires being torn limb from limb. Though as many seem to think paying their fair share of tax would be pretty much equivalent, why not?
thundergolfer 7y ago
Naomi Klein’s most recent book has parts that argue that addressing wealth inequality is a must if we want to address climate change. In her words, wealth equality is tied to a “climate justice” movement. Some points: - If you tax the struggling lower middle and working classes to raise funds for climate action they will get justifiably angry that they’re being stressed when they didn’t really create this mess and have the lowest ability to pay. Eg. Frances ‘Yellow Jackets’ - The antidemocratic forces that are produced by wealth inequality have allowed fossil fuel industries to maintain the status quo despite popular support for climate action
adamsea 7y ago
I would argue the ones lusting for blood are those who, like decision-makers at Amazon, create abusive conditions for the people who work for the companies they manage. I'm specifically referring to the disgraceful way workers are treated at Amazon shipping facilities. Most blood seems to be spilled by those with money wanting more. One could argue that the arms business spills more blood than everything else put together ...

Well it's tied in one direction: poorer populations will suffer for the material benefit of richer ones. My nation is quite explicit about this - our government is on record as being happy for Pacific nations to lose their land as long as Australia continues 'economic growth'. And we'll even allow them to labour for us in exchange! The other direction is conceivable: more equal populations may be less liable to vanity status purchases, and less resistant to equitably-distributed change. Perhaps hard to prove either way. Anyway, that's not much to do with my comment which was merely noting that disaster capitalists trying to make trillions from climate change may meet mass resistance. As for my alleged blood lust - well I doubt the discontent will result in many billionaires being torn limb from limb. Though as many seem to think paying their fair share of tax would be pretty much equivalent, why not?

thundergolfer 7y ago

Naomi Klein’s most recent book has parts that argue that addressing wealth inequality is a must if we want to address climate change. In her words, wealth equality is tied to a “climate justice” movement. Some points: - If you tax the struggling lower middle and working classes to raise funds for climate action they will get justifiably angry that they’re being stressed when they didn’t really create this mess and have the lowest ability to pay. Eg. Frances ‘Yellow Jackets’ - The antidemocratic forces that are produced by wealth inequality have allowed fossil fuel industries to maintain the status quo despite popular support for climate action

adamsea 7y ago

I would argue the ones lusting for blood are those who, like decision-makers at Amazon, create abusive conditions for the people who work for the companies they manage. I'm specifically referring to the disgraceful way workers are treated at Amazon shipping facilities. Most blood seems to be spilled by those with money wanting more. One could argue that the arms business spills more blood than everything else put together ...