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Approval voting is too similar to FPTP. Enough voters will continue to mark a single box that you're not better off in practical terms. Major candidates will ai
by jacques_chester 7y ago
Approval voting is too similar to FPTP. Enough voters will continue to mark a single box that you're not better off in practical terms. Major candidates will aim to muddy the waters because they won't want "leakage" to third parties.
- jefftk 7y agoEven if 70% of people Bullet vote Approval still has a very high Voter Satisfaction Efficiency. Its simplicity makes it very robust to tactical voting.
- jacques_chester 7y agoVSE is based on simulation and gee whiz, seems to favour those awfully enthusiastic range voter folks who assume we're all going to do some calculus in the voting booth. IRV has actually been used. Thousands of times. At multi-mega-votes scale.
- jefftk 7y agoFor what it's worth the people behind VSE primarily advocate for Approval Voting: its very simple while performing almost as well as much more complex systems
- moultano 7y agoThe proximate problem in US elections is the spoiler effect, and Approval solves that as effectively as any other system. We won't have to have endless debates about whether Nader voters "would have" voted for Gore. We'll know for sure.
- jacques_chester 7y agoThis problem is not unique to US elections.
- bcrosby95 7y agoPeople's votes aren't spoiled because they will always approve of their preferred candidate and the singular mainstream candidate. Because of this, one of the two mainstream ones will always win. So there's basically zero chance of the non mainstream candidate to win, even if a majority of people would pick them as their #1 choice.
- jacques_chester 7y ago> People's votes aren't spoiled because they will always approve of their preferred candidate and the singular mainstream candidate. Because of this, one of the two mainstream ones will always win. This is demonstrably untrue. Minor parties are represented in every legislature in Australia, including in single-member lower house electorates.
- munk-a 7y agoI agree, IRV actually provides psychological reinforcement for ranking all the candidates - I'd rather voters over vote than under vote... and we can assume a lot of poor voters since voter education (and general education) is a serious issue in the US.