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Do you really need to make fun of someone disadvantaged to have comedy? Do folks not approach things like rape and discrimation and dealing with American cops w

Do you really need to make fun of someone disadvantaged to have comedy? Do folks not approach things like rape and discrimation and dealing with American cops with comedy? Have you not seen the bit by.. Josh Johnson? ... where he accidentally catfishes the KKK? Or watched Frankie Boyle? Or the Mash Report? It is pretty obvious there is plenty of comedy out there that approaches difficult and tough subjects through humor. Society is becoming less tolerant of racism and sexism and homophobia and things like that - you know, the political correctness of it. If your comedy includes making fun of men for being too "gay" or women for being too manly... sure, political correctness has caused a demise in your sort of humor, and good riddance.

aantix 7y ago
In order to confront truths, you're going to risk being offensive. There are plenty of logical inconsistencies, fallacies, half-truths, that every social tribe adopts that need a mirror to reveal their ridiculousness. Some may only be observed as an outsider from the group. This is the service comedy has always provided. We are humans. We are fallible.
- notadoc 7y ago
  Unfortunately there is historical precedent to comedic intolerance. Royalty would occasionally have their court jesters put to death, for example.
- Broken_Hippo 7y ago
  I specifically mentioned Frankie Boyle because folks tend to find him offensive. He also hosts a show talking about serious-ish topics, generally in a funny tone. The others were just comedic takes on more serious stuff. But really, they were examples of comedy that the person claimed was hobbled as a result of political correctness - and I don't see it as the case at all. Comedy simply isn't what it was 30 years ago, but at the same time... comedy isn't what it was 50 years ago either.
  - aantix 7y ago
    >If your comedy includes making fun of men for being too "gay" or women for being too manly... sure, political correctness has caused a demise in your sort of humor, and good riddance. The very idea that there couldn't be any funny perspectives left on the above topics shows that the idea of being emotionally protected has been elevated above free speech. The vocal minority of Twitter do not represent the general public. https://www.pewinternet.org/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/#nws=mcnewsletter https://www.pewinternet.org/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-use...
notadoc 7y ago
Do you think creating strawman arguments are effective and is that how you typically engage in a discussion?
- Broken_Hippo 7y ago
  "Political correctness and outrage culture has hobbled the ability to confront hard subjects through humor." If these are not examples of what you claim are being hobbled, please better explain what you mean. Have I misunderstood you?

aantix 7y ago

In order to confront truths, you're going to risk being offensive. There are plenty of logical inconsistencies, fallacies, half-truths, that every social tribe adopts that need a mirror to reveal their ridiculousness. Some may only be observed as an outsider from the group. This is the service comedy has always provided. We are humans. We are fallible.

notadoc 7y ago
Unfortunately there is historical precedent to comedic intolerance. Royalty would occasionally have their court jesters put to death, for example.
Broken_Hippo 7y ago
I specifically mentioned Frankie Boyle because folks tend to find him offensive. He also hosts a show talking about serious-ish topics, generally in a funny tone. The others were just comedic takes on more serious stuff. But really, they were examples of comedy that the person claimed was hobbled as a result of political correctness - and I don't see it as the case at all. Comedy simply isn't what it was 30 years ago, but at the same time... comedy isn't what it was 50 years ago either.
- aantix 7y ago
  >If your comedy includes making fun of men for being too "gay" or women for being too manly... sure, political correctness has caused a demise in your sort of humor, and good riddance. The very idea that there couldn't be any funny perspectives left on the above topics shows that the idea of being emotionally protected has been elevated above free speech. The vocal minority of Twitter do not represent the general public. https://www.pewinternet.org/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/#nws=mcnewsletter https://www.pewinternet.org/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-use...

notadoc 7y ago

Do you think creating strawman arguments are effective and is that how you typically engage in a discussion?

Broken_Hippo 7y ago
"Political correctness and outrage culture has hobbled the ability to confront hard subjects through humor." If these are not examples of what you claim are being hobbled, please better explain what you mean. Have I misunderstood you?