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How would you propose to measure the experience of pain other than by self report? Also, the "doctors" were actors, not the patients. Edit: rather both were a
by phonypc 7y ago
How would you propose to measure the experience of pain other than by self report?
Also, the "doctors" were actors, not the patients.
Edit: rather both were actors
- 08-15 7y agoHow am I supposed to know and how is it even relevant? The point is, the "placebo effect" (this is actually incorrect usage of the term) only seems to affect things that can't be measured. Why don't placebos heal infection or lower cholesterol levels or blood sugar or supplement thyroxin or something that is measurable? Because there is no "placebo effect" (in that incorrect sense). There is only bad reporting.
- phonypc 7y agoWell... you objected to the phrase "can have a large impact on the experience of pain" on the grounds that it was only reported pain. But pain is measured by self report. There's no other way to do it.
- 08-15 7y agoNo, there is simply no way to measure pain. Sorry about that, deal with it and just demonstrate the "placebo effect" of something that can be measured. Hasn't happened in ~50 years of breathless reporting on it, though, has it?
- phonypc 7y agoI know what you're getting at; you obviously can't measure pain in the same way you can measure blood pressure or heartrate (both of which, by the way, are affected by placebo.) But it's abject nonsense to extend that to the idea that you can't measure pain at all. Do you claim that the effect of opioids on pain is unmeasurable?
- 08-15 7y agoGetting further and further from the point... Du you claim that surgery could be performed under placebo-anaesthesia? Why or why not?