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I'm assuming that they make some sort of music player à la Spotify, but with a P2P-system which makes it harder to find the user-IPs. The technology's been out

I'm assuming that they make some sort of music player à la Spotify, but with a P2P-system which makes it harder to find the user-IPs. The technology's been out for some time already, so why not?

StavrosK 16y ago
My money is on a p2p iTunes. Spotify would be unlikely, as you need to keep the files to be able to seed them, so they'd have to come from somewhere if nobody ever stored them on their drives. An iTunes equivalent that also broadcasts would be far more viable.
patrickod 16y ago
would this not make it much easier for malicious 3rd parties to monitor where music is being shared?
- JonnieCache 16y ago
  not if you use some kind of obfuscating routing layer. think tor style, but heavily optimized towards music streaming and nothing else.
- uxp 16y ago
  P2P is one of the most insecure ideas, in terms of privacy. Everyone must have some address, and that address must be configured to server some file, of which is copyrighted by none of the parties involved. Even if the program used hides what IP addresses I am pulling that file from, netstat and sockstat will be able to divulge that information. The only thing I can think of is a P2P network, where every user of the protocol becomes a node in a TOR like network, but then you will be dealing with horrible bandwidth issues. My 7MBit DSL only has 1MBit upstream, which is hardly enough for me to route more than 4 other user's traffic through. That still doesn't solve the issue of privacy and anonymizing the users, since a user of the program, even if he is not actively downloading and uploading a file that he requested, is still liable for distributing a portion of the copyrighted files other users are requesting and distributing. You may not get the end point, but you'll end up with a whole bucketload of people facilitating the infringement.
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gst 16y ago
Makes sense. Especially after reading this article here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2122614 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2122614

I'm assuming that they make some sort of music player à la Spotify, but with a P2P-system which makes it harder to find the user-IPs. The technology's been out for some time already, so why not?

StavrosK 16y ago

My money is on a p2p iTunes. Spotify would be unlikely, as you need to keep the files to be able to seed them, so they'd have to come from somewhere if nobody ever stored them on their drives. An iTunes equivalent that also broadcasts would be far more viable.

patrickod 16y ago

would this not make it much easier for malicious 3rd parties to monitor where music is being shared?

JonnieCache 16y ago
not if you use some kind of obfuscating routing layer. think tor style, but heavily optimized towards music streaming and nothing else.
uxp 16y ago
P2P is one of the most insecure ideas, in terms of privacy. Everyone must have some address, and that address must be configured to server some file, of which is copyrighted by none of the parties involved. Even if the program used hides what IP addresses I am pulling that file from, netstat and sockstat will be able to divulge that information. The only thing I can think of is a P2P network, where every user of the protocol becomes a node in a TOR like network, but then you will be dealing with horrible bandwidth issues. My 7MBit DSL only has 1MBit upstream, which is hardly enough for me to route more than 4 other user's traffic through. That still doesn't solve the issue of privacy and anonymizing the users, since a user of the program, even if he is not actively downloading and uploading a file that he requested, is still liable for distributing a portion of the copyrighted files other users are requesting and distributing. You may not get the end point, but you'll end up with a whole bucketload of people facilitating the infringement.
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gst 16y ago

Makes sense. Especially after reading this article here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2122614 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2122614