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How would this have changed the Canadian results?

Kylekramer 7y ago
Would have given Liberals a more convincing victory given that the Canada left is split into three to four parties while right just has one.
- vkou 7y ago
  Even if you're a Liberal supporter, the last thing that you wanted to see last night was another Liberal majority. [1] Their handling of scandals (Pre-black-face, which was a side-show) was absolutely atrocious, and they could absolutely get away with it, by closing ranks in Parliament. It's one of the big reasons for why the Cons gained 4 percentage points in the popular vote since 2015. Another four years of an untouchable majority, and they would have stolen everything not nailed down, completely destroyed their public image, only to waltz into the polls, and find to their dismay that this results in another Con government. Proportionate representation would give Canadian politics the kick in the direction it needs, but unfortunately, the Liberals went back on their promises of electoral reform, once they realized that it would cost them seats. [1] Edit: It should be noted that Canada has a track record of reasonably functioning minority governments - so government will continue to be able to reasonably... Govern. What it won't be able to continue with, is closing is eyes and ears, to all kinds of cabinet impropriety.
- yifanl 7y ago
  It's more of a 3-2 split, no? Afaict, the Bloc are a right-leaning party. (Not familiar with Quebecois politics, so I could definitely be wrong)
  - Kylekramer 7y ago
    Bloc is harder to categorize given it is a party mostly to promote one province's preferred policies. In general, their positions are fairly left wing because Quebec itself is quite left, but has a few oddball positions that skew right. Platform (en francais, bien sur) is mostly leftish positions with an emphasis on making sure Quebec gets their cut: https://www.blocquebecois.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Plateforme_Bloc2019_web-1.pdf https://www.blocquebecois.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Pla...
mFixman 7y ago
There were a significant number of people who preferred the NDP, but voted Liberal to deny the Conservatives a seat.
pjkundert 7y ago
Huge numbers of Canadians, on both "sides" of the (false) spectrum, voted for a less preferred (or even undesirable) candidate, because otherwise their vote would have been "wasted". A vote for a preferred (but unlikely to win) candidate is effectively a vote against your 2nd-best strategic candidate (the one you'd prefer to win, if your ideal candidate can't achieve victory). Basically, every time a voter dislikes one of the 2 leading candidates -- they are forced to not vote for their preferred candidate. It is unacceptable and disrepectful to the voters -- but no "incumbent" party will ever propose or vote for "electoral reform" because it directly affects the likelihood that they will win re-election.

Would have given Liberals a more convincing victory given that the Canada left is split into three to four parties while right just has one.

vkou 7y ago
Even if you're a Liberal supporter, the last thing that you wanted to see last night was another Liberal majority. [1] Their handling of scandals (Pre-black-face, which was a side-show) was absolutely atrocious, and they could absolutely get away with it, by closing ranks in Parliament. It's one of the big reasons for why the Cons gained 4 percentage points in the popular vote since 2015. Another four years of an untouchable majority, and they would have stolen everything not nailed down, completely destroyed their public image, only to waltz into the polls, and find to their dismay that this results in another Con government. Proportionate representation would give Canadian politics the kick in the direction it needs, but unfortunately, the Liberals went back on their promises of electoral reform, once they realized that it would cost them seats. [1] Edit: It should be noted that Canada has a track record of reasonably functioning minority governments - so government will continue to be able to reasonably... Govern. What it won't be able to continue with, is closing is eyes and ears, to all kinds of cabinet impropriety.
yifanl 7y ago
It's more of a 3-2 split, no? Afaict, the Bloc are a right-leaning party. (Not familiar with Quebecois politics, so I could definitely be wrong)
- Kylekramer 7y ago
  Bloc is harder to categorize given it is a party mostly to promote one province's preferred policies. In general, their positions are fairly left wing because Quebec itself is quite left, but has a few oddball positions that skew right. Platform (en francais, bien sur) is mostly leftish positions with an emphasis on making sure Quebec gets their cut: https://www.blocquebecois.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Plateforme_Bloc2019_web-1.pdf https://www.blocquebecois.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Pla...

mFixman 7y ago

There were a significant number of people who preferred the NDP, but voted Liberal to deny the Conservatives a seat.

pjkundert 7y ago

Huge numbers of Canadians, on both "sides" of the (false) spectrum, voted for a less preferred (or even undesirable) candidate, because otherwise their vote would have been "wasted". A vote for a preferred (but unlikely to win) candidate is effectively a vote against your 2nd-best strategic candidate (the one you'd prefer to win, if your ideal candidate can't achieve victory). Basically, every time a voter dislikes one of the 2 leading candidates -- they are forced to not vote for their preferred candidate. It is unacceptable and disrepectful to the voters -- but no "incumbent" party will ever propose or vote for "electoral reform" because it directly affects the likelihood that they will win re-election.