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I hate to pile on, but please revert this change. It also makes HN feel too much like reddit.

benologist 16y ago
I think the problem is it's not enough like reddit - reddit makes it really easy to get past long comment threads and load more comments. Edit: I might be biased having used reddit for so long though, it's definitely an interface I'm heavily accustomed to. Reddit's collapsing + loading strategy is something I like a lot and really miss here.
- coderdude 16y ago
  Personally, I'm opposed to any kind of comment hiding because it all affects comments in the same way: People contribute but are ignored because it's always easier to just move on than to keep clicking 'more.'
  - nhangen 16y ago
    I agree, and TBH - I like being able to scroll through hundreds of comments (at most) to skim what I am interested in. It's much more difficult to do that when comments are hidden.
- jakevoytko 16y ago
  I miss Reddit's [-] button. It collapses an entire discussion, which allows a 1000-comment discussion thread to be readable: Read the root, read first child, collapse first child, read second child, collapse second child, collapse root, read next comment. You don't need to scroll to read all of the interesting points in a post! I would just throw Greasemonkey at the problem, but I jump between computers too much! I'd rather see a native solution.
  - akirk 16y ago
    pg doesn't seem to be interested in doing that. I created a script (http://alexander.kirk.at/2010/02/16/collapsible-threads-for-hacker-news/ http://alexander.kirk.at/2010/02/16/collapsible-threads-for-...) and sent him something to cut and paste in order to add it to HN. Would have been minimal effort but apparently not going to happen.
StavrosK 16y ago
reddit doesn't paginate.
- deno 16y ago
  Actually it does but pages are 500 top level entries long and even more with Reddit Gold.
  - StavrosK 16y ago
    It doesn't paginate, it hides low-scoring comments and let you load them with AJAX. Pagination feels much worse than that, I basically never go to another page because I feel it's not worth it. However, I can't stop compulsively clicking on "load more comments", even when I know they're not worth it.
    - deno 16y ago
      Not only low-scoring, you can choose sorting method yourself. Still, you're right that paginated comments are appended on the page rather than loaded as a new view. My emphasis was on the fact that the number of loaded by default comments is rather high, making pagination necessary only on the very top commented stories, whereas on HN, as it is now, even quite noncontroversial entries' discussion threads are strongly chunked.
      - StavrosK 16y ago
        Ah, I agree with you on that.

I think the problem is it's not enough like reddit - reddit makes it really easy to get past long comment threads and load more comments. Edit: I might be biased having used reddit for so long though, it's definitely an interface I'm heavily accustomed to. Reddit's collapsing + loading strategy is something I like a lot and really miss here.

coderdude 16y ago
Personally, I'm opposed to any kind of comment hiding because it all affects comments in the same way: People contribute but are ignored because it's always easier to just move on than to keep clicking 'more.'
- nhangen 16y ago
  I agree, and TBH - I like being able to scroll through hundreds of comments (at most) to skim what I am interested in. It's much more difficult to do that when comments are hidden.
jakevoytko 16y ago
I miss Reddit's [-] button. It collapses an entire discussion, which allows a 1000-comment discussion thread to be readable: Read the root, read first child, collapse first child, read second child, collapse second child, collapse root, read next comment. You don't need to scroll to read all of the interesting points in a post! I would just throw Greasemonkey at the problem, but I jump between computers too much! I'd rather see a native solution.
- akirk 16y ago
  pg doesn't seem to be interested in doing that. I created a script (http://alexander.kirk.at/2010/02/16/collapsible-threads-for-hacker-news/ http://alexander.kirk.at/2010/02/16/collapsible-threads-for-...) and sent him something to cut and paste in order to add it to HN. Would have been minimal effort but apparently not going to happen.

StavrosK 16y ago

reddit doesn't paginate.

deno 16y ago
Actually it does but pages are 500 top level entries long and even more with Reddit Gold.
- StavrosK 16y ago
  It doesn't paginate, it hides low-scoring comments and let you load them with AJAX. Pagination feels much worse than that, I basically never go to another page because I feel it's not worth it. However, I can't stop compulsively clicking on "load more comments", even when I know they're not worth it.
  - deno 16y ago
    Not only low-scoring, you can choose sorting method yourself. Still, you're right that paginated comments are appended on the page rather than loaded as a new view. My emphasis was on the fact that the number of loaded by default comments is rather high, making pagination necessary only on the very top commented stories, whereas on HN, as it is now, even quite noncontroversial entries' discussion threads are strongly chunked.
    - StavrosK 16y ago
      Ah, I agree with you on that.