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Oh, please. You make it sound like Mozilla is equivalent to Facebook. Is that a smear campaign ? You can donate to the Mozilla foundation. Have you ? Have you

Oh, please. You make it sound like Mozilla is equivalent to Facebook. Is that a smear campaign ? You can donate to the Mozilla foundation. Have you ? Have you convinced your company or your friends to do so ? Because that's a better alternative than outright singling Mozilla out for their ties to Google. Which last time I checked didn't make the user the product of Google like Chrome or Android does.

FreeFull 7y ago
Firefox is developed by the Mozilla Corporation (a subsidiary of the Foundation). Money donated towards the Foundation doesn't go towards Firefox development. The Corporation has it's own income sources (including money from Google), and actually a lot of money from the Corporation ends up going to the Foundation, to further the mission of "Making web free".
- johnchristopher 7y ago
  Thank you for reminding us. Every time I somehow forget how the corporation was set up so that money could still be made from SE deals.
- TheKarateKid 7y ago
  Didn't this change in recent years? Hence why Firefox is not distributed via the Mozilla.org domain instead of the .com?
alexis_fr 7y ago
Mozilla fired their CEO, the founder of JS, Brendan Eich, because he made a donation 10 years before to a Christian charity. Many SV people are missing the scope and scale of the impact of having OSS charities engaging in the political campaign – it is renouncing all donations from the other side. It is not their role. Every year I have thousands of dollars that I try to affect to OSS charities, but I’m yet to find a single one that is tolerant of everyone, _including the supposedly dominant group_ . But tolerance is too much to ask, even from Mozilla.
- johnchristopher 7y ago
  I don't think you are ever going to find such a charity. The Red Cross maybe ? (then again, when donating blood, and depending on the country, you have laws in place that prevent some people to donate if they are transgender for instance).
- gilrain 7y ago
  He gave money to a political campaign attempting to limit the right to marry to heterosexual couples. A little different from any old "Christian charity".
  - 4ad 7y ago
    It's no different in any way whatsoever.
    - treypitt 7y ago
      True Christian charities probably engage in humanitarian work, like the Red Cross. Political advocacy isn't charity work. Even if you think its effectually charitable, to claim there is no difference between charity work and political advocacy would be laughable coming from a 9th grade student
- xfitm3 7y ago
  Mozilla faced tremendous pressure from the media, Mitchell had no choice but to let him go. The public went on a witch hunt. It's your peers who did this, not Mozilla's chairman.
  - sfink 7y ago
    That seems about right, except for Mitchell's involvement. As I remember it, it was more Brendan's call than Mitchell's. She did not ask for his resignation. At least from what I heard, he decided that the backlash was doing too much damage to Mozilla and stepped down.
    - 7y ago

FreeFull 7y ago

Firefox is developed by the Mozilla Corporation (a subsidiary of the Foundation). Money donated towards the Foundation doesn't go towards Firefox development. The Corporation has it's own income sources (including money from Google), and actually a lot of money from the Corporation ends up going to the Foundation, to further the mission of "Making web free".

johnchristopher 7y ago
Thank you for reminding us. Every time I somehow forget how the corporation was set up so that money could still be made from SE deals.
TheKarateKid 7y ago
Didn't this change in recent years? Hence why Firefox is not distributed via the Mozilla.org domain instead of the .com?

alexis_fr 7y ago

Mozilla fired their CEO, the founder of JS, Brendan Eich, because he made a donation 10 years before to a Christian charity. Many SV people are missing the scope and scale of the impact of having OSS charities engaging in the political campaign – it is renouncing all donations from the other side. It is not their role. Every year I have thousands of dollars that I try to affect to OSS charities, but I’m yet to find a single one that is tolerant of everyone, _including the supposedly dominant group_ . But tolerance is too much to ask, even from Mozilla.

johnchristopher 7y ago
I don't think you are ever going to find such a charity. The Red Cross maybe ? (then again, when donating blood, and depending on the country, you have laws in place that prevent some people to donate if they are transgender for instance).
gilrain 7y ago
He gave money to a political campaign attempting to limit the right to marry to heterosexual couples. A little different from any old "Christian charity".
- 4ad 7y ago
  It's no different in any way whatsoever.
  - treypitt 7y ago
    True Christian charities probably engage in humanitarian work, like the Red Cross. Political advocacy isn't charity work. Even if you think its effectually charitable, to claim there is no difference between charity work and political advocacy would be laughable coming from a 9th grade student
xfitm3 7y ago
Mozilla faced tremendous pressure from the media, Mitchell had no choice but to let him go. The public went on a witch hunt. It's your peers who did this, not Mozilla's chairman.
- sfink 7y ago
  That seems about right, except for Mitchell's involvement. As I remember it, it was more Brendan's call than Mitchell's. She did not ask for his resignation. At least from what I heard, he decided that the backlash was doing too much damage to Mozilla and stepped down.
  - 7y ago