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I would be more than happy to pay for gmail, google docs, and an entire suite of google products with the absolute guarantee legally that they could not and wou

by hastes 7y ago

I would be more than happy to pay for gmail, google docs, and an entire suite of google products with the absolute guarantee legally that they could not and would not either collect, or sell my information as part of that payment. I highly doubt that would ever happen though, considering data is the new oil. Oh well, one can dream.

nostromo 7y ago
That exists. Sign up for GSuite for a single seat.
- thekingshorses 7y ago
  How much does it cost?
  - klodolph 7y ago
    $6/month per user. I switched from an email server I personally managed (exim+dovecot) to GSuite a couple years ago.
  - crazygringo 7y ago
    $12/mo for 1 TB of storage: https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html If storage isn't a concern (just privacy), $6/mo for 30 GB (double what Gmail gives you for free).
    - dimensi0nal 7y ago
      The $12 plan is unlimited; the 1 TB limit isn't enforced.
      - judge2020 7y ago
        Do you have a source or have other info on this? I have a G Suite Non-Profit account and while it says the "my drive" had 30 GB of storage, the non-profit license also grants us "shared drives" which grant unlimited storage but only in those shared drives. I was wondering if the 1 TB limit is a similar situation. As a side-note, Drive File Stream messes up uploading big files/folders due to this: https://support.google.com/nonprofits/thread/13880126?hl=en https://support.google.com/nonprofits/thread/13880126?hl=en
cj 7y ago
It's already possible by moving from a consumer Google account to a G Suite account. The main difference between consumer Google accounts and G Suites accounts is that G Suite accounts come with an extremely comprehensive (complex, complicated) administration panel which is absolutely overkill for use cases other than managing G Suite users within a company / organization. But, you can sign up for G Suite as an individual, and most of the default settings will just work out of the box without much customization needed. You will have issues if you want to use things like Google Home or Google Nest (or any other consumer-only services... Nest thermostats, for example, won't connect to G Suite accounts and only connect to regular Google consumer accounts). Here's Google's guarantee re: legally not collecting / selling your G Suite data... > There is no advertising in the G Suite Core Services, and we have no plans to change this in the future. Google does not collect, scan or use data in G Suite Core Services for advertising purposes. [1] [1] https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-whitepaper/page-6.html https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-white...
- hastes 7y ago
  Hmm, I will need to do a bit more research into this. My only concern is what exactly is the extent of "G Suite Core Services", does that apply to all existing features of Google, the entire entity itself including YouTube/etc, or just the services provided by the G Suite. I still may do this but if it doesn't include search, YT, etc, it will be a bit disappointing knowing they are double dipping with my subscription and data.
  - GlitchMr 7y ago
    Google Search and YouTube are outside of G Suite, and will still track the user.
  - urgeblumbling 7y ago
    https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en/terms/user_features.html https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en/terms/user_features.html
- thepangolino 7y ago
gruez 7y ago
>the absolute guarantee legally that they could not and would not either collect, or sell my information as part of that payment. I don't think that's a strong enough requirement. Google doesn't sell your information (it's too valuable for them to do that). Instead, they use it to profile you for better targeting. So them not selling your information doesn't mean much. The same goes for not "collecting". Even if they don't fingeprint or location track you, they still have access to all your emails which is still a treasure trove of information. You can't tell them not to collect it because they need to to operate a mail service. The only acceptable solution in my mind is end to end encryption.

by hastes 7y ago

nostromo 7y ago

That exists. Sign up for GSuite for a single seat.

thekingshorses 7y ago
How much does it cost?
- klodolph 7y ago
  $6/month per user. I switched from an email server I personally managed (exim+dovecot) to GSuite a couple years ago.
- crazygringo 7y ago
  $12/mo for 1 TB of storage: https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html If storage isn't a concern (just privacy), $6/mo for 30 GB (double what Gmail gives you for free).
  - dimensi0nal 7y ago
    The $12 plan is unlimited; the 1 TB limit isn't enforced.
    - judge2020 7y ago
      Do you have a source or have other info on this? I have a G Suite Non-Profit account and while it says the "my drive" had 30 GB of storage, the non-profit license also grants us "shared drives" which grant unlimited storage but only in those shared drives. I was wondering if the 1 TB limit is a similar situation. As a side-note, Drive File Stream messes up uploading big files/folders due to this: https://support.google.com/nonprofits/thread/13880126?hl=en https://support.google.com/nonprofits/thread/13880126?hl=en

cj 7y ago

It's already possible by moving from a consumer Google account to a G Suite account. The main difference between consumer Google accounts and G Suites accounts is that G Suite accounts come with an extremely comprehensive (complex, complicated) administration panel which is absolutely overkill for use cases other than managing G Suite users within a company / organization. But, you can sign up for G Suite as an individual, and most of the default settings will just work out of the box without much customization needed. You will have issues if you want to use things like Google Home or Google Nest (or any other consumer-only services... Nest thermostats, for example, won't connect to G Suite accounts and only connect to regular Google consumer accounts). Here's Google's guarantee re: legally not collecting / selling your G Suite data... > There is no advertising in the G Suite Core Services, and we have no plans to change this in the future. Google does not collect, scan or use data in G Suite Core Services for advertising purposes. [1] [1] https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-whitepaper/page-6.html https://gsuite.google.com/learn-more/security/security-white...

hastes 7y ago
Hmm, I will need to do a bit more research into this. My only concern is what exactly is the extent of "G Suite Core Services", does that apply to all existing features of Google, the entire entity itself including YouTube/etc, or just the services provided by the G Suite. I still may do this but if it doesn't include search, YT, etc, it will be a bit disappointing knowing they are double dipping with my subscription and data.
- GlitchMr 7y ago
  Google Search and YouTube are outside of G Suite, and will still track the user.
- urgeblumbling 7y ago
  https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en/terms/user_features.html https://gsuite.google.com/intl/en/terms/user_features.html
thepangolino 7y ago

gruez 7y ago

>the absolute guarantee legally that they could not and would not either collect, or sell my information as part of that payment. I don't think that's a strong enough requirement. Google doesn't sell your information (it's too valuable for them to do that). Instead, they use it to profile you for better targeting. So them not selling your information doesn't mean much. The same goes for not "collecting". Even if they don't fingeprint or location track you, they still have access to all your emails which is still a treasure trove of information. You can't tell them not to collect it because they need to to operate a mail service. The only acceptable solution in my mind is end to end encryption.