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I wish cars were banned from most back streets in central London, it's really not necessary to have every small road accessible by car. The only exception is un
by jon889 7y ago
I wish cars were banned from most back streets in central London, it's really not necessary to have every small road accessible by car. The only exception is unloading/loading at commercial places but that should only be at certain times.
- WhompingWindows 7y agoHow large/dirty of a vehicle should be allowed to load/unload anywhere? My city has very narrow, small, 1700's streets and there are not limitations on 18 wheelers blocking whole lanes of traffic to deliver a couple of hand-carts of perishables. Seems these trucking companies should be sub-dividing their parcels into more logistically manage-able sizes, but there is no cost associated to these negative externalities.
- TylerE 7y agoSo, you're willing to pay for the additional transshipment warehouses, trucks, drivers, etc? It's also not at all clear to me that replacing one semi with 20 van-sized vehicles is an improvement.
- chrisseaton 7y ago> Seems these trucking companies should be sub-dividing their parcels into more logistically manage-able sizes Are you sure that trade-off of many smaller vehicles rather than one big vehicle makes sense, in terms of pollution and congestion? I'm not as sure as you are, but who knows.
- easytiger 7y agoAnd loading unloading at private property?
- refurb 7y agoI went to the old part of Montreal a few years back. They have road from the 1600’s (?) that have houses on them. They have a permit system. Owners can drive their cars to their homes, but are limited to 15 min of parking. They are basically pedestrian malls now.
- jdnenej 7y agoI think how it works at the pedestrian mall here is all loading and unloading gets done before store opening hours and then the vans leave and the bollards go back up.
- iicc 7y agoBlocking through-routes would be a big step forward.
- epanchin 7y agoNot necessary for the fully abled.
- jon889 7y agoHence “most” not “all” backstreets. For example in soho Frith street could be fully pedestrianised, while the neighbouring greek street only accessible to taxis
- learnstats2 7y agoThis is an important point but it's hardly that Central London is accessible to disabled people today. Cities that get this right have good adaptations for disabled travellers - generally by permitting them as exceptional traffic (and not through traffic). Plus, for example, door-to-door bike lanes are also good for powerchairs. You will see a lot more wheelchair users getting about anywhere in the Netherlands than you do anywhere in the UK.
- francisofascii 7y agoMaybe current residents with disabilities could be grandfathered in.
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- dabeeeenster 7y agoThere are thousands of roads in London that would benefit from bollards in the middle of the road, preventing rat running traffic from using them to bypass traffic on A and B roads. I have absolutely no idea why this doesn't happen.
- barrkel 7y agoIME commuting by motorbike through London over the past 10 years, most side roads aren't viable rat runs owing to one way loops that feed you back out onto the road you're trying to avoid. In north and east London, it's the canals and rivers that prevent a lot of rat-running. The Lee / Lea river and its reservoirs, all the way to the canals in Islington, down into Limehouse, cut out most alternative east-west routes - you need to cross those waterways by bridges, and only the bigger roads have bridges. And there are east-west canals too, that reduce the options north-south on the east side of the city.
- rtkwe 7y agoAnd handicap accessibility, people with limited mobility need closer parking.