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I think the real question is whether the failure rate of companies using Haskell is higher than those of companies using mainstream languages.

seddona 7y ago
That would be an interesting question to answer. I know of a few rapidly growing companies using Haskell that compete directly with non-Haskell companies. We'll have to see how things play out over the next few years but that might provide some data points.
- UserIsUnused 7y ago
  Can you name them?
  - seddona 7y ago
    CircuitHub (a company I co-founded) and Habito (UK mortgage broker) stand out in my head as startups (in the PG sense of the word http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html) that use primarily Haskell and have direct startup competition using more conventional stacks. We come across tons of others, I keep meaning to write down a list.
wolco 7y ago
If mainstream companies tried to hire and run projects in haskell problems would quickly surface. Not too many haskell bootcamps. There is a need for haskell but it is not the next language to take over it is missing key features.
- the_af 7y ago
  I don't think the existence of bootcamps is a good measure. Which key features is Haskell missing?
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  - wolco 7y ago
    The language is the language. I won't offer any opinions on what I would like to see The problem is the ecosystem, tooling. Lack of frameworks/crms/cmses make it a poor choice Bootcamps try to scale the learning process. In a bootcamp someone can go from nothing to productive/professional in a few weeks. This is not possible with haskell.
    - the_af 7y ago
      Sorry to seem dense, but which frameworks and tooling do you think it's lacking? Specific examples would help. I ask because I don't think Haskell is particularly lacking in this regard, and it's successfully deployed in real life software, but I might be missing something.

seddona 7y ago

That would be an interesting question to answer. I know of a few rapidly growing companies using Haskell that compete directly with non-Haskell companies. We'll have to see how things play out over the next few years but that might provide some data points.

UserIsUnused 7y ago
Can you name them?
- seddona 7y ago
  CircuitHub (a company I co-founded) and Habito (UK mortgage broker) stand out in my head as startups (in the PG sense of the word http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html) that use primarily Haskell and have direct startup competition using more conventional stacks. We come across tons of others, I keep meaning to write down a list.

wolco 7y ago

If mainstream companies tried to hire and run projects in haskell problems would quickly surface. Not too many haskell bootcamps. There is a need for haskell but it is not the next language to take over it is missing key features.

the_af 7y ago
I don't think the existence of bootcamps is a good measure. Which key features is Haskell missing?
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- wolco 7y ago
  The language is the language. I won't offer any opinions on what I would like to see The problem is the ecosystem, tooling. Lack of frameworks/crms/cmses make it a poor choice Bootcamps try to scale the learning process. In a bootcamp someone can go from nothing to productive/professional in a few weeks. This is not possible with haskell.
  - the_af 7y ago
    Sorry to seem dense, but which frameworks and tooling do you think it's lacking? Specific examples would help. I ask because I don't think Haskell is particularly lacking in this regard, and it's successfully deployed in real life software, but I might be missing something.