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Facilitating DRM, which runs counter to interoperability, is exactly why EME isn't a standard. And please stop spamming your OAuth2 nonsense, it's off topic.

shadowgovt 7y ago
I keep bringing up OAuth2 because it's in a similar domain to EME. Authorization restricts access to resources that users are not supposed to be accessing (for whatever reason, be it privacy or they simply haven't paid to access it). Similarly, encryption restricts usage of resources in ways users are not supposed to use them (including having not paid for the privilege). It's not "counter to interoperability" that Google Drive won't fork over your documents to anyone who requests them without the right token. Your frustration isn't the technology, it's what it's used for. If you want to claim EME isn't a standard, clarify how it differs from OAuth2.
- anoncake 7y ago
  > Authorization restricts access to resources that users are not supposed to be accessing (for whatever reason, be it privacy or they simply haven't paid to access it). Oh, sorry. I thought you actually knew what DRM is. https://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm_digital_restrictions_management https://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm_digital_restri... > Your frustration isn't the technology, it's what it's used for. Stop trying to read my mind, it's a violation of privacy and physics. > If you want to claim EME isn't a standard, clarify how it differs from OAuth2. If there is no relevant difference, then OAuth2 isn't a standard either. Happy now?
  - shadowgovt 7y ago
    > If there is no relevant difference, then OAuth2 isn't a standard either. Happy now? In the sense that you've reached the conclusion that your definition of "standard" isn't sufficiently universal to discuss the topic because you've excluded what is generally accepted to be a widely-accepted authorization standard that lacked the controversy over socioeconomic control that the EME standard does, yes. Trying to short-circuit debate by bullying the field of definitions and declaring the other viewpoint "propaganda" isn't constructive.
    - anoncake 7y ago
      Stop twisting my words. Thanks.

shadowgovt 7y ago

I keep bringing up OAuth2 because it's in a similar domain to EME. Authorization restricts access to resources that users are not supposed to be accessing (for whatever reason, be it privacy or they simply haven't paid to access it). Similarly, encryption restricts usage of resources in ways users are not supposed to use them (including having not paid for the privilege). It's not "counter to interoperability" that Google Drive won't fork over your documents to anyone who requests them without the right token. Your frustration isn't the technology, it's what it's used for. If you want to claim EME isn't a standard, clarify how it differs from OAuth2.

anoncake 7y ago
> Authorization restricts access to resources that users are not supposed to be accessing (for whatever reason, be it privacy or they simply haven't paid to access it). Oh, sorry. I thought you actually knew what DRM is. https://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm_digital_restrictions_management https://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm_digital_restri... > Your frustration isn't the technology, it's what it's used for. Stop trying to read my mind, it's a violation of privacy and physics. > If you want to claim EME isn't a standard, clarify how it differs from OAuth2. If there is no relevant difference, then OAuth2 isn't a standard either. Happy now?
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  > If there is no relevant difference, then OAuth2 isn't a standard either. Happy now? In the sense that you've reached the conclusion that your definition of "standard" isn't sufficiently universal to discuss the topic because you've excluded what is generally accepted to be a widely-accepted authorization standard that lacked the controversy over socioeconomic control that the EME standard does, yes. Trying to short-circuit debate by bullying the field of definitions and declaring the other viewpoint "propaganda" isn't constructive.
  - anoncake 7y ago
    Stop twisting my words. Thanks.