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> and possibly even better It is better. Google is now just a sluggish tech bully and only shows world-beating performance through acquisitions (such as, sadl

by oska 7y ago

> and possibly even better It is better. Google is now just a sluggish tech bully and only shows world-beating performance through acquisitions (such as, sadly, their acquisition of DeepMind). The Google of 1999 - that a lot of us thrilled to - is long dead.

antaviana 7y ago
I am in the translation business, and although we do not use MT so far for the verticals we focus on, perhaps what shocks me most is Deepl Alexa 90-day trend [0]. It is so smooth it seems faked. [0] https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/deepl.com https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/deepl.com
- fireattack 7y ago
  Never heard of that website so I give it a try. It says "[t]ranslate from any language", but doesn't seem to support Chinese or Japanese at all. To me, translating other Western languages to English is never a problem. I can use any half-decent online translation services and the result is totally understandable.
  - tralarpa 7y ago
    > I can use any half-decent online translation services and the result is totally understandable But in the case of deepl, the result is not only understandable but also often (but not always) nearly perfect.
    - needle0 7y ago
      When you're just trying to read stuff to understand it, "understandable" is good enough. I'll be waiting for a looong time for CN/JP/KR translation to reach anywhere close to Not Utterly Incoherent.
      - tralarpa 7y ago
        Me, too, me, too. Knowing a little bit of Chinese, I can understand that this is not an easy job for an AI. Too much context dependend stuff. Or maybe, there are simply not enough bilingual documents for the training. That's the great advantage of the European union :)
  - antaviana 7y ago
    "Translate from any language" in the context of deepl.com website means "detect language". AFAIK, only the devil can translate from any language (not even Google Translate can translate from any language, in spite of attributed evilness to Google).

by oska 7y ago

antaviana 7y ago

I am in the translation business, and although we do not use MT so far for the verticals we focus on, perhaps what shocks me most is Deepl Alexa 90-day trend [0]. It is so smooth it seems faked. [0] https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/deepl.com https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/deepl.com

fireattack 7y ago
Never heard of that website so I give it a try. It says "[t]ranslate from any language", but doesn't seem to support Chinese or Japanese at all. To me, translating other Western languages to English is never a problem. I can use any half-decent online translation services and the result is totally understandable.
- tralarpa 7y ago
  > I can use any half-decent online translation services and the result is totally understandable But in the case of deepl, the result is not only understandable but also often (but not always) nearly perfect.
  - needle0 7y ago
    When you're just trying to read stuff to understand it, "understandable" is good enough. I'll be waiting for a looong time for CN/JP/KR translation to reach anywhere close to Not Utterly Incoherent.
    - tralarpa 7y ago
      Me, too, me, too. Knowing a little bit of Chinese, I can understand that this is not an easy job for an AI. Too much context dependend stuff. Or maybe, there are simply not enough bilingual documents for the training. That's the great advantage of the European union :)
- antaviana 7y ago
  "Translate from any language" in the context of deepl.com website means "detect language". AFAIK, only the devil can translate from any language (not even Google Translate can translate from any language, in spite of attributed evilness to Google).