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China has earned their influence. If you want to see an example of buying influence, go look at the middle eastern oil countries.

NicoJuicy 7y ago
I think a lot of people don't agree with you, talked with some people of Tibet just, last night ( 6 hours ago) Let's say they hate China's forced influence, not earned. We can put other places inside of China even on the list ( Taiwan and Hong Kong). The politicians didn't earn their spot. They got placed there by Beijing. And now more and more countries want to remove the debt from China's debts, along the one road, one belt. Also, that belt is not earned. It was pushed by Beijing through fake investment propaganda, since the investments are debt loaden. Even their friend Russia is looking for closer ties with alternatives, since trading with China has been a one-way road only ( trade resources and that's it ) Let's face it, China has put itselve on the top because it could move 1,4 billion people into cheap labour, first in China and now across the one road and one belt. All the rest was lies ( market access), market protection ( can't get your money out, enter the market with a required 50% partner) and scams ( debt loaded colonisation, fake 20-year lasting WTO promises,..) and fake numbers ( only China knows the real growth number and value of business in our stock market, we don't have access to it) Best thing is, while it's trying to colonise Africa/Asia. We still threat them as it's a developing country, with all the benefits ( for them) that come with it. We are so dumb.
- tasogare 7y ago
  > We can put other places inside of China even on the list ( Taiwan and Hong Kong). The politicians didn't earn their spot. They got placed there by Beijing. Taiwan (Republic of China) is not part of China (People Republic of China). It is a different and independent country. Politicians are elected by the citizens, Beijing as nothing to do with that.
  - NicoJuicy 7y ago
    I know it's not part of China, China is pushing for it though. Eg. Airlines have to put Taiwan as a province of China. You just aknowledged it as a perfect example
- coldtea 7y ago
  >I think a lot of people don't agree with you, talked with some people of Tibet just, last night. Let's say they hate China's forced influence, not earned. Well, try to talk to people about the US influence, and not just to their neighbors like Tibet, but all around the world. You'll have a fun conversation.
  - NicoJuicy 7y ago
    At least they respect international rules, China just ignores them. It's playing bully on a long-term basis, no need to look over the world for "a" example. Just look at all of China's neighboors in international waters.
    - dijit 7y ago
      You're likely being downvoted because the US does not respect international rules.
      - NicoJuicy 7y ago
        Actually I'm not anymore. I think it's mostly that, even when people think America is bad sometimes. They know that China is much worse. That's why I'm upvoted a lot on the topic above it. At least, for the US they have to include all of the world to find bad behavior. ( Excluding Trump era ofc, but that's why impeachment is coming)
        taborj 7y ago
        > impeachment is coming I wouldn't put any money on that. There are too many things that just don't add up, and I don't think they have the numbers. I think the impeachment process is a two-pronged attack: damage Trump (always a plus from the Democrat standpoint), and damage Biden enough that he's not a factor in the primaries.
        NicoJuicy 7y ago
        I think it is, Trump is leaving a lot of proof of personal wealth gain behind. I'm very curious what will happen when he's president no longer. Donating profits to a non-profit organisation that he indirectly owns won't change the impeachment. Pandora's box will explode, all of his loyalist will have the choice: long jailtime or shorter with a confession. The first already has fallen and Trump is loyal to no one. So will his followers be. I'm still waiting for proof of ( again) stock manipulation to come up. An old Fox doesn't loses his tricks.

NicoJuicy 7y ago

I think a lot of people don't agree with you, talked with some people of Tibet just, last night ( 6 hours ago) Let's say they hate China's forced influence, not earned. We can put other places inside of China even on the list ( Taiwan and Hong Kong). The politicians didn't earn their spot. They got placed there by Beijing. And now more and more countries want to remove the debt from China's debts, along the one road, one belt. Also, that belt is not earned. It was pushed by Beijing through fake investment propaganda, since the investments are debt loaden. Even their friend Russia is looking for closer ties with alternatives, since trading with China has been a one-way road only ( trade resources and that's it ) Let's face it, China has put itselve on the top because it could move 1,4 billion people into cheap labour, first in China and now across the one road and one belt. All the rest was lies ( market access), market protection ( can't get your money out, enter the market with a required 50% partner) and scams ( debt loaded colonisation, fake 20-year lasting WTO promises,..) and fake numbers ( only China knows the real growth number and value of business in our stock market, we don't have access to it) Best thing is, while it's trying to colonise Africa/Asia. We still threat them as it's a developing country, with all the benefits ( for them) that come with it. We are so dumb.

tasogare 7y ago
> We can put other places inside of China even on the list ( Taiwan and Hong Kong). The politicians didn't earn their spot. They got placed there by Beijing. Taiwan (Republic of China) is not part of China (People Republic of China). It is a different and independent country. Politicians are elected by the citizens, Beijing as nothing to do with that.
- NicoJuicy 7y ago
  I know it's not part of China, China is pushing for it though. Eg. Airlines have to put Taiwan as a province of China. You just aknowledged it as a perfect example
coldtea 7y ago
>I think a lot of people don't agree with you, talked with some people of Tibet just, last night. Let's say they hate China's forced influence, not earned. Well, try to talk to people about the US influence, and not just to their neighbors like Tibet, but all around the world. You'll have a fun conversation.
- NicoJuicy 7y ago
  At least they respect international rules, China just ignores them. It's playing bully on a long-term basis, no need to look over the world for "a" example. Just look at all of China's neighboors in international waters.
  - dijit 7y ago
    You're likely being downvoted because the US does not respect international rules.
    - NicoJuicy 7y ago
      Actually I'm not anymore. I think it's mostly that, even when people think America is bad sometimes. They know that China is much worse. That's why I'm upvoted a lot on the topic above it. At least, for the US they have to include all of the world to find bad behavior. ( Excluding Trump era ofc, but that's why impeachment is coming)
      - taborj 7y ago
        > impeachment is coming I wouldn't put any money on that. There are too many things that just don't add up, and I don't think they have the numbers. I think the impeachment process is a two-pronged attack: damage Trump (always a plus from the Democrat standpoint), and damage Biden enough that he's not a factor in the primaries.
        NicoJuicy 7y ago
        I think it is, Trump is leaving a lot of proof of personal wealth gain behind. I'm very curious what will happen when he's president no longer. Donating profits to a non-profit organisation that he indirectly owns won't change the impeachment. Pandora's box will explode, all of his loyalist will have the choice: long jailtime or shorter with a confession. The first already has fallen and Trump is loyal to no one. So will his followers be. I'm still waiting for proof of ( again) stock manipulation to come up. An old Fox doesn't loses his tricks.