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Just FYI many people with doctorates (not MDs) do call themselves doctors. I've known many Finance, Philosophy and Econ doctors in my time and they all use that

Just FYI many people with doctorates (not MDs) do call themselves doctors. I've known many Finance, Philosophy and Econ doctors in my time and they all use that title and their name plaques all had "Dr. So-and-so" on them. I'm sure it is common in other areas as well.

SECProto 7y ago
I know a few with PhDs, and they don't. Usually post-nominal credentials, rather than "doctor" before the name. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean a whole lot. The giving-medical-advice thing was a dig at a formerly popular television host.
- MereInterest 7y ago
  There is a difference between PhDs typically not introducing themselves as "Doctor" and saying that it is a falsehood when they do. That said, a doctor misrepresenting themself as a physician and giving medical advice where not licensed to do practice medicine, as done by Dr. Phil, is wildly unethical.
  - SECProto 7y ago
    Definitely, and if you read my original comment, I defended the engineer because he wasn't using the title as a deception or in soliciting business. Though he was potentially commenting outside his realm of expertise.
LiquidSky 7y ago
When we graduated from law school a friend of mine called our state bar association and asked about the ethical rules regarding an attorney calling themselves "doctor" since we have JDs. The answer for our state is that it's fine unless you practice in the area of medical malpractice, in which case it might cause confusion with clients and will be considered on a case-by-case basis if there is a complaint.
Al-Khwarizmi 7y ago
I don't know how it works in America, but in Europe (or at least in the European countries I know) that's actually the formal standard. If you have a PhD, you earn the right to be called Dr. (name). If you get a degree in medicine, you are colloquially addressed as "doctor" but formally you aren't one, unless you get the PhD in medicine.
- consp 7y ago
  In those countries there are also separate registries for MD's which are the guide for allowing you to practice medicine. There are however many, many more professions which require specialty training and are protected: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/tools-databases/regprof/index.cfm?action=map_regulations https://ec.europa.eu/growth/tools-databases/regprof/index.cf...

SECProto 7y ago

I know a few with PhDs, and they don't. Usually post-nominal credentials, rather than "doctor" before the name. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean a whole lot. The giving-medical-advice thing was a dig at a formerly popular television host.

MereInterest 7y ago
There is a difference between PhDs typically not introducing themselves as "Doctor" and saying that it is a falsehood when they do. That said, a doctor misrepresenting themself as a physician and giving medical advice where not licensed to do practice medicine, as done by Dr. Phil, is wildly unethical.
- SECProto 7y ago
  Definitely, and if you read my original comment, I defended the engineer because he wasn't using the title as a deception or in soliciting business. Though he was potentially commenting outside his realm of expertise.

LiquidSky 7y ago

When we graduated from law school a friend of mine called our state bar association and asked about the ethical rules regarding an attorney calling themselves "doctor" since we have JDs. The answer for our state is that it's fine unless you practice in the area of medical malpractice, in which case it might cause confusion with clients and will be considered on a case-by-case basis if there is a complaint.

Al-Khwarizmi 7y ago

I don't know how it works in America, but in Europe (or at least in the European countries I know) that's actually the formal standard. If you have a PhD, you earn the right to be called Dr. (name). If you get a degree in medicine, you are colloquially addressed as "doctor" but formally you aren't one, unless you get the PhD in medicine.

consp 7y ago
In those countries there are also separate registries for MD's which are the guide for allowing you to practice medicine. There are however many, many more professions which require specialty training and are protected: https://ec.europa.eu/growth/tools-databases/regprof/index.cfm?action=map_regulations https://ec.europa.eu/growth/tools-databases/regprof/index.cf...