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SailfishOS comes to mind. But it's not on par with Android (yet, or ever), however it's Linux, the real thing. I learned about it in the AskNoahShow ep.144 tit

by K0SM0S 7y ago

SailfishOS comes to mind. But it's not on par with Android (yet, or ever), however it's Linux, the real thing. I learned about it in the AskNoahShow ep.144 titled "SailfishOS" [1], you might wanna check it out. It runs notably on open-source phones from Sony. You can bet that's my next toy! [1]: https://podcast.asknoahshow.com/144 https://podcast.asknoahshow.com/144

voltagex_ 7y ago
I bought a Sony Xperia XA2 Plus for this express purpose. A couple of things: fastboot oem unlock is a one way trip, it blows some kind of fuse and you can never relock the bootloader. While I give Sony lots of points for having a page showing where the UART is in their phones, they lose all of those points for deciding that unlocked devices can no longer get OTA updates, even when reflashed to a stock ROM. Sailfish was really, really janky when I tried it, I couldn't even turn on developer mode without signing in to a Jolla account, then it hung for at least 5 minutes trying to enable the developer mode. For the XA2 Ultra, there's also no LineageOS build.
- K0SM0S 7y ago
  Thanks a lot for the feedback, I'll definitely keep it in mind! My idea and recommendation, taking a cue from Noah Chelliah (link above), is basically to have two smartphones — 1 dedicated to SailfishOS, and 1 "fallback" on Android for everything else. Then see from there.
  - blotter_paper 7y ago
    I'm pretty sure the Xperia that GP mentioned is supported by both MultiROM and Sailfish, so if you're buying devices specifically for this purpose you should be able to dualboot both Sailfish your Android fallback on that one device (among others you could choose from).
    - K0SM0S 7y ago
      Oh? This sounds awesome! I'm really not a phone person, barely use it —PC all the way!— so I'm pretty sure I'll be just fine with a dual boot. My intent with Sailfish is to replace the laptop actually, for all those times when it's just too much and I only need a quick terminal session. Thanks for that.
m4rtink 7y ago
I have been running Sailfish OS as my main smartphone since launch (November 2013) on various devices (Jolla 1, Jolla c, Xperia X) and while definitely not perfect I find it totally usable in this role. And having a real Linux distro in your pocket is really really nice & only illustrates how stripped down are regular Android phones and tablets every time I interact with one.
- K0SM0S 7y ago
  This is music to my ears. > illustrates how stripped down are regular Android phones and tablets Oh don't get me started on that... I could probably write a short novel about it. But you know that already. Part of me feels disappointed that of all the Linux-y podcasts and blogs and comments I've been exposed to over the years, it took me this long to identify Sailfish as my probable salvation.

by K0SM0S 7y ago

voltagex_ 7y ago

I bought a Sony Xperia XA2 Plus for this express purpose. A couple of things: fastboot oem unlock is a one way trip, it blows some kind of fuse and you can never relock the bootloader. While I give Sony lots of points for having a page showing where the UART is in their phones, they lose all of those points for deciding that unlocked devices can no longer get OTA updates, even when reflashed to a stock ROM. Sailfish was really, really janky when I tried it, I couldn't even turn on developer mode without signing in to a Jolla account, then it hung for at least 5 minutes trying to enable the developer mode. For the XA2 Ultra, there's also no LineageOS build.

K0SM0S 7y ago
Thanks a lot for the feedback, I'll definitely keep it in mind! My idea and recommendation, taking a cue from Noah Chelliah (link above), is basically to have two smartphones — 1 dedicated to SailfishOS, and 1 "fallback" on Android for everything else. Then see from there.
- blotter_paper 7y ago
  I'm pretty sure the Xperia that GP mentioned is supported by both MultiROM and Sailfish, so if you're buying devices specifically for this purpose you should be able to dualboot both Sailfish your Android fallback on that one device (among others you could choose from).
  - K0SM0S 7y ago
    Oh? This sounds awesome! I'm really not a phone person, barely use it —PC all the way!— so I'm pretty sure I'll be just fine with a dual boot. My intent with Sailfish is to replace the laptop actually, for all those times when it's just too much and I only need a quick terminal session. Thanks for that.

m4rtink 7y ago

I have been running Sailfish OS as my main smartphone since launch (November 2013) on various devices (Jolla 1, Jolla c, Xperia X) and while definitely not perfect I find it totally usable in this role. And having a real Linux distro in your pocket is really really nice & only illustrates how stripped down are regular Android phones and tablets every time I interact with one.

K0SM0S 7y ago
This is music to my ears. > illustrates how stripped down are regular Android phones and tablets Oh don't get me started on that... I could probably write a short novel about it. But you know that already. Part of me feels disappointed that of all the Linux-y podcasts and blogs and comments I've been exposed to over the years, it took me this long to identify Sailfish as my probable salvation.