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I am the author, and I may be guilty of writing an extremely long blog post; but judging by your response, you didn't bother to read it that thoroughly. The new

I am the author, and I may be guilty of writing an extremely long blog post; but judging by your response, you didn't bother to read it that thoroughly. The new layout in Catalina's Mail.app is actually my smallest complaint. I don't like change when it unnecessarily breaks things that used to work just fine. I don't like change when it is haphazardly imposed on a yearly basis by a company which has clearly stopped caring about Mac OS as far as management is involved. I used to like change more when it actually made me work better, when the advantages clearly outweighed the downsides, when progress and improvements were noticeable and thoughtfully implemented. But hey, that's me.

berberous 7y ago
Alternative possibility: you just got old. In all seriousness, older people are more opposed to UI and other types of change.
- johnisgood 7y ago
  He is evidently NOT opposed to changes, read these quotes from him: > I don't like change when it unnecessarily breaks things that used to work just fine. > I used to like change more when it actually made me work better, when the advantages clearly outweighed the downsides, when progress and improvements were noticeable and thoughtfully implemented. He is opposed to changes that 1) break things that used to work fine, 2) do not make him work better, and so on, you get the idea. If those changes make him work better, or when the advantages clearly outweigh the downsides, and when improvements are noticeable and thoughtfully implemented, then he is all in favor of those changes, i.e. not opposed to changes in general, just some changes that do not meet some criteria.
  - chrischen 7y ago
    > I don't like change when it unnecessarily breaks things that used to work just fine. This is by definition what change is. It's an improvement, and if changes didn't break things there'd never be progress and nothing would get changed.
    - FireBeyond 7y ago
      Change is absolutely not, "by definition", an improvement. It can be. And it can be entirely the opposite.
      - chrischen 7y ago
        What I meant is that an improvement is always a change. It may not have worked for a specific person but it was intended to address an issue for others. Backwards compatibility does not come for free. At some point people refusing to use new features have to be cut off.
        pjc50 7y ago
        Perhaps, but they don't have to like it.
  - JumpCrisscross 7y ago
    > He is opposed to changes that 1) break things that used to work fine The arguments for building emulators into the OS are weak. A minority of users running old operating systems in VMs while the majority get a sleeker, better maintained and thus hopefully more secure OS. That is a fair tradeoff. Pulling native 32-bit support may be 2019’s laptop-with-no-disk-drive drama.
    - swish_bob 7y ago
      People who've been using an OS for a fairly long time tend to accumulate applications. Many of them will have been 32-bit at the point they got them. Many of them still will be, or will be fairly awkward to update. While I'm happy I should be able to find 64 bit versions of everything I want to upgrade, I'm confident I wouldn't be able to talk my mother through it on the phone. It's been flagged that it's coming for a while, but _at best_ it's a massive ballache for an awful lot of customers. Apple are going to need to provide me with a pretty compelling reason to persuade me to willingly undergo that pain ...
- SrslyJosh 7y ago
  Or he's a professional and doesn't want to waste his time beta-testing something that wasn't ready for prime time. I don't know about you, but I value working software and it'll probably be six months before I consider dropping Mojave. Multiple data loss bugs? Arbitrarily killing all 32-bit apps? No thanks, I'll wait.
- Jaruzel 7y ago
  > In all seriousness, older people are more opposed to UI and other types of change. It's not that. We just have more experience of Change, and know that Change Without Purpose rarely provides any benefit.
noncoml 7y ago
So, have you tried Catalina?
- PappaPatat 7y ago
  He mentioned that a couple of hours before your question (and I do not know how to link to a comment): >Hello! I am the author, and no, I haven't tried Catalina because, as I state at the very end of my article: >"Both my main Macs are really working flawlessly at the moment, and Catalina is beta-quality software that’s likely to give me headaches I don’t need right now. Who knows, maybe down the road I could acquire a cheap used Mac that can run Catalina (something like a 2014 Mac mini) and use it as a test machine. As things are now, I absolutely do not want Catalina to mess with my current setups and data."
KibbutzDalia 7y ago
Nobody on Hacker News reads the articles.
- dang 7y ago
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berberous 7y ago

Alternative possibility: you just got old. In all seriousness, older people are more opposed to UI and other types of change.

johnisgood 7y ago
He is evidently NOT opposed to changes, read these quotes from him: > I don't like change when it unnecessarily breaks things that used to work just fine. > I used to like change more when it actually made me work better, when the advantages clearly outweighed the downsides, when progress and improvements were noticeable and thoughtfully implemented. He is opposed to changes that 1) break things that used to work fine, 2) do not make him work better, and so on, you get the idea. If those changes make him work better, or when the advantages clearly outweigh the downsides, and when improvements are noticeable and thoughtfully implemented, then he is all in favor of those changes, i.e. not opposed to changes in general, just some changes that do not meet some criteria.
- chrischen 7y ago
  > I don't like change when it unnecessarily breaks things that used to work just fine. This is by definition what change is. It's an improvement, and if changes didn't break things there'd never be progress and nothing would get changed.
  - FireBeyond 7y ago
    Change is absolutely not, "by definition", an improvement. It can be. And it can be entirely the opposite.
    - chrischen 7y ago
      What I meant is that an improvement is always a change. It may not have worked for a specific person but it was intended to address an issue for others. Backwards compatibility does not come for free. At some point people refusing to use new features have to be cut off.
      - pjc50 7y ago
        Perhaps, but they don't have to like it.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago
  > He is opposed to changes that 1) break things that used to work fine The arguments for building emulators into the OS are weak. A minority of users running old operating systems in VMs while the majority get a sleeker, better maintained and thus hopefully more secure OS. That is a fair tradeoff. Pulling native 32-bit support may be 2019’s laptop-with-no-disk-drive drama.
  - swish_bob 7y ago
    People who've been using an OS for a fairly long time tend to accumulate applications. Many of them will have been 32-bit at the point they got them. Many of them still will be, or will be fairly awkward to update. While I'm happy I should be able to find 64 bit versions of everything I want to upgrade, I'm confident I wouldn't be able to talk my mother through it on the phone. It's been flagged that it's coming for a while, but _at best_ it's a massive ballache for an awful lot of customers. Apple are going to need to provide me with a pretty compelling reason to persuade me to willingly undergo that pain ...
SrslyJosh 7y ago
Or he's a professional and doesn't want to waste his time beta-testing something that wasn't ready for prime time. I don't know about you, but I value working software and it'll probably be six months before I consider dropping Mojave. Multiple data loss bugs? Arbitrarily killing all 32-bit apps? No thanks, I'll wait.
Jaruzel 7y ago
> In all seriousness, older people are more opposed to UI and other types of change. It's not that. We just have more experience of Change, and know that Change Without Purpose rarely provides any benefit.

noncoml 7y ago

So, have you tried Catalina?

PappaPatat 7y ago
He mentioned that a couple of hours before your question (and I do not know how to link to a comment): >Hello! I am the author, and no, I haven't tried Catalina because, as I state at the very end of my article: >"Both my main Macs are really working flawlessly at the moment, and Catalina is beta-quality software that’s likely to give me headaches I don’t need right now. Who knows, maybe down the road I could acquire a cheap used Mac that can run Catalina (something like a 2014 Mac mini) and use it as a test machine. As things are now, I absolutely do not want Catalina to mess with my current setups and data."

KibbutzDalia 7y ago

Nobody on Hacker News reads the articles.

dang 7y ago
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