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Catalina does break a lot of games. I am pretty sure that if you get on Steam, the list of games that Catalina breaks is longer than the list of games that work

by mullen 7y ago

Catalina does break a lot of games. I am pretty sure that if you get on Steam, the list of games that Catalina breaks is longer than the list of games that work on Catalina.

dkonofalski 7y ago
I'm sure it does because most games didn't update to 64-bit. I still fail to see how that warrants an article like that. If you know the games won't work and you still want to play them, don't upgrade. It's not that hard.
- Wowfunhappy 7y ago
  As it happens, the author isn't upgrading.
  - dkonofalski 7y ago
    And your point is? I've already acknowledged that. I'm pointing out that a disappointment for their individual situation doesn't indicate that the update is a failure nor does it warrant what they've written.
    - johnisgood 7y ago
      It is a problem for them, and they express it. What do you think is wrong with that? Not being able to run 32-bit applications is a deal-breaker for many people. The update is a failure for them for this or many other reasons. It might not affect you, and that is fine, but it does affect other people and it is a perfectly valid concern that they could voice. Why are you so against them voicing their problems with the update? Who are you to be the judge of what warrants and does not warrant any articles? Ultimately your opinion on whether it warrants an article or a comment does not matter, thank goodness. What if I told you that you being fine with the update does not warrant a comment? Whatever your answer is, please repeat the same thing to yourself because it seems like you have a strong dislike towards the act of voicing valid issues with the update. I would dare to say it reeks of fanpersonism.
      - dkonofalski 7y ago
        >it does affect other people and it is a perfectly valid concern It most certainly does not affect them if they don't choose to update. That's exactly my issue with this whole thread. You're all straw-manning my response as if my complaint is with the person's desire to write an article about their opinion. That's not my issue. My issue is with the fact that their complaint doesn't line up with the statements they've made in the article and the fact that they're treating an optional update as some kind of requirement that points to a fault in the OS. And, frankly, I think your statement about reeking of "fanpersonism" is unfair considering that the only time the site in question has ever posted to HN is to complain about Apple and/or their products. That, to me, is fanpersonism.
        johnisgood 7y ago
        > It most certainly does not affect them if they don't choose to update. This has been addressed in other comments by others and I. > And, frankly, I think your statement about reeking of "fanpersonism" is unfair I based it on the things you have said about what warrants or does not warrant an article. In any case: no hard feelings.
        Wowfunhappy 7y ago
        > the only time the site in question has ever posted to HN is to complain about Apple and/or their products. Huh? https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=morrick.me https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=morrick.me
    - philwelch 7y ago
      What's your point? For someone who's entire argument is just to accuse people of being whiny and entitled, you're being particularly whiny and entitled when it comes to other people having different opinions than you.
      - dkonofalski 7y ago
        Where am I being whiny and entitled in any of my responses? I have no issue at all with people having different opinions. My issue is when their complaints don't line up with what they're saying. Namely, that their choice in preference is a failure with Catalina rather than simply something that doesn't fit their need. That distinction doesn't make Catalina a failure or controversial.
newnewpdro 7y ago
Is that just because of the signing requirement on executables?
- plorkyeran 7y ago
  No, it's because for some reason there's a bunch of 32-bit only games on macOS.

by mullen 7y ago

Catalina does break a lot of games. I am pretty sure that if you get on Steam, the list of games that Catalina breaks is longer than the list of games that work on Catalina.

dkonofalski 7y ago

I'm sure it does because most games didn't update to 64-bit. I still fail to see how that warrants an article like that. If you know the games won't work and you still want to play them, don't upgrade. It's not that hard.

Wowfunhappy 7y ago
As it happens, the author isn't upgrading.
- dkonofalski 7y ago
  And your point is? I've already acknowledged that. I'm pointing out that a disappointment for their individual situation doesn't indicate that the update is a failure nor does it warrant what they've written.
  - johnisgood 7y ago
    It is a problem for them, and they express it. What do you think is wrong with that? Not being able to run 32-bit applications is a deal-breaker for many people. The update is a failure for them for this or many other reasons. It might not affect you, and that is fine, but it does affect other people and it is a perfectly valid concern that they could voice. Why are you so against them voicing their problems with the update? Who are you to be the judge of what warrants and does not warrant any articles? Ultimately your opinion on whether it warrants an article or a comment does not matter, thank goodness. What if I told you that you being fine with the update does not warrant a comment? Whatever your answer is, please repeat the same thing to yourself because it seems like you have a strong dislike towards the act of voicing valid issues with the update. I would dare to say it reeks of fanpersonism.
    - dkonofalski 7y ago
      >it does affect other people and it is a perfectly valid concern It most certainly does not affect them if they don't choose to update. That's exactly my issue with this whole thread. You're all straw-manning my response as if my complaint is with the person's desire to write an article about their opinion. That's not my issue. My issue is with the fact that their complaint doesn't line up with the statements they've made in the article and the fact that they're treating an optional update as some kind of requirement that points to a fault in the OS. And, frankly, I think your statement about reeking of "fanpersonism" is unfair considering that the only time the site in question has ever posted to HN is to complain about Apple and/or their products. That, to me, is fanpersonism.
      - johnisgood 7y ago
        > It most certainly does not affect them if they don't choose to update. This has been addressed in other comments by others and I. > And, frankly, I think your statement about reeking of "fanpersonism" is unfair I based it on the things you have said about what warrants or does not warrant an article. In any case: no hard feelings.
      - Wowfunhappy 7y ago
        > the only time the site in question has ever posted to HN is to complain about Apple and/or their products. Huh? https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=morrick.me https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=morrick.me
  - philwelch 7y ago
    What's your point? For someone who's entire argument is just to accuse people of being whiny and entitled, you're being particularly whiny and entitled when it comes to other people having different opinions than you.
    - dkonofalski 7y ago
      Where am I being whiny and entitled in any of my responses? I have no issue at all with people having different opinions. My issue is when their complaints don't line up with what they're saying. Namely, that their choice in preference is a failure with Catalina rather than simply something that doesn't fit their need. That distinction doesn't make Catalina a failure or controversial.

newnewpdro 7y ago

Is that just because of the signing requirement on executables?

plorkyeran 7y ago
No, it's because for some reason there's a bunch of 32-bit only games on macOS.