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By this test, is Lego the next big thing?

by cookingrobot 7y ago

Tronno 7y ago
Lego has an annual revenue in the billions and has recently grown bigger than Mattel or Hasbro. So, yes
swsieber 7y ago
Already was - spawned games, movies, theme-park rides, etc.
jacobr1 7y ago
Maybe? The definitions evolve and stretch. What if legos where made of smarter material or had more powerful components? 3D printing might actually be the right way to think about small-scale at-home manufacturing rather than per-brick components - but even then plenty of components (such as compute related) require different manufacturing methods - so standards based on something like lego might allow for interoperability. It's a toy ... until it is not.
DannyB2 7y ago
The real test, I think, is something that has genuinely useful applications to anyone with a little bit of vision. Big entrenched players are unable to see the next big thing, because they see the world through the glasses of their successful business. Microsoft for example almost missed the internet, and suddenly realized it in 1995. I believe Bill Gates was quoted as saying it was just a fad. The funny thing is that more than a decade earlier (about 1980) I heard the same thing about "personal computers" or "microcomputers". Just a fad. A toy. Never will compete with IBM's "real" computers, etc. Similarly, these new fangled "automobile" thingies will never become popular. They are noisy. Smelly. Unreliable. Difficult to start. You can even break your arm if it kicks back while you are cranking it. And worst of all (gasp!) they frighten the horses! That's why these automobile thingies are just rich kid's toys. A fad. I guess they couldn't see that all of those imperfections I listed could be fixed. Back in the 1990s I saw this interesting tv program. Sorry, can't remember. It was about personal computers. The person being interviewed said the entrenched players NEVER see the next big thing coming. So they hire someone smart who will see it coming, and then tell them when its coming. And then when they are told this is the NEXT BIG THING! They never believe it. Speaking of Microsoft almost missing the internet, they did entirely miss the new generation of smartphones starting with the iPhone. Ballmer laughed at the iPhone. They woke up to the new reality after it was too late. Sorry iPhone and Android already dominated. Smart phones sold in unit volumes that dwarfed PC unit volumes. Win Phone 7, followed by an incompatible Win Phone 8 didn't stand a chance -- even with nice Nokia hardware.
- 18pfsmt 7y ago
  They didn't miss it, they saw it as a threat to be stomped. They almost succeeded, but Google would've canned their game eventually. Believe it or not, "free stuff" is popular.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago
  > Smart phones sold in unit volumes that dwarfed PC unit volumes. Popcorn sold in unit volumes even higher than that, but so what? These aren't comparable things.
  - l_t 7y ago
    I think this is a legitimate question. There's two main things smartphones and PCs have in common, but both are arguable: 1. They do the same things. Both are general purpose computers. For some use cases, they both work fine. 2. They're about the same cost: ~$800 or so. But that's comparing flagship smartphone costs with entry-level desktop PC costs. I suppose from hte perspective of a large company, a smartphone sale seems like it might be more or less valuable than a desktop PC sale depending on a variety of factors. So I think it's safe to say they are similarly comparable in that sense.
- oscargrouch 7y ago
  I remember building dial-up internet providers in the late nineties(97/98) here in Brazil as a teen, and some consulting folks trying to sell us some Solaris licenses, laughing at us because we were using Linux, 'that toy OS'. It would be kind of easy to make a stand against the microsoft fanboys against NT 4, but it was much more difficult to make a good case of Linux against Solaris back then. (Remember Linux starting to be taken seriously by 2.2 and 2.4 period) Also i got the same dismissive snarks, when installing and programing in PHP back then to make dinamic websites, in a world then taken by ASP and Cold Fusion. (And the other alternative in Unix were only Perl, for which i thank PHP for avoiding me the trouble). It's a reminder for me, that the most common trend in IT sector is of folks with a "colonized" sort of mentality, that will fail to recognize the things that will turn into real things in the future. It's sad when you think that its even worse than that, giving most people just show off and wait for their next paycheck. They dont even bother thinking in those things. So the psychological profile of who are saying what is kind a very big deal, not just what they are saying.
blotter_paper 7y ago
Yes; by 2036, 78% of the earth's surface will be composed of Mindstorms.
thorwasdfasdf 7y ago
If Lego blocks were bigger and all building codes and regulations were removed and zoning could be eliminated, then yes absolutely legos would be the next big thing that could upend the entire multi trillion dollar housing market. Imagine the enormous societal wealth creation, if anyone could build a house with the same ease (and lack of regulations) of building a website. of course, these hypothetical legos would need plumbing and electrical infrastructure and maybe a few other things ;)
- Izkata 7y ago
  Brikawood homes https://www.simplemost.com/houses-made-wooden-lego-like-bricks/ https://www.simplemost.com/houses-made-wooden-lego-like-bric... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ierqMW_FxfE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ierqMW_FxfE
  - hanniabu 7y ago
    Do those need siding or is that an acceptable external wall? Would be nice if these structures were widely allowed, but I have a feeling that it would conflict with many building codes. That sawdust wall filler also looks like a fire hazard. Look like it'd be good fun building though!
mch82 7y ago
Literally, no. Conceptually, maybe. Lego represents the construction of objects from catalogs of standard components. That’s in comparison to carving unique, one off toys from raw wood. Professional fabrication has followed in the footsteps of LEGO (and Lincoln Logs, Erector Set). If you use SketchUp to design a building you’ll notice it’s encouraged to use standard building components that can be picked from a library. Lots of those components can then be picked up at Home Depot. Ikea furniture kits are also similar to Lego (or at least the broader category of toy). LEGO’s Mindstorms GUI programming model is very forward looking. LabVIEW and Simulink are picking up on those concepts & professional engineers are definitely using them.
itronitron 7y ago
if by Lego you mean Minecraft, then yes

By this test, is Lego the next big thing?

Tronno 7y ago

Lego has an annual revenue in the billions and has recently grown bigger than Mattel or Hasbro. So, yes

swsieber 7y ago

Already was - spawned games, movies, theme-park rides, etc.

jacobr1 7y ago

Maybe? The definitions evolve and stretch. What if legos where made of smarter material or had more powerful components? 3D printing might actually be the right way to think about small-scale at-home manufacturing rather than per-brick components - but even then plenty of components (such as compute related) require different manufacturing methods - so standards based on something like lego might allow for interoperability. It's a toy ... until it is not.

DannyB2 7y ago

The real test, I think, is something that has genuinely useful applications to anyone with a little bit of vision. Big entrenched players are unable to see the next big thing, because they see the world through the glasses of their successful business. Microsoft for example almost missed the internet, and suddenly realized it in 1995. I believe Bill Gates was quoted as saying it was just a fad. The funny thing is that more than a decade earlier (about 1980) I heard the same thing about "personal computers" or "microcomputers". Just a fad. A toy. Never will compete with IBM's "real" computers, etc. Similarly, these new fangled "automobile" thingies will never become popular. They are noisy. Smelly. Unreliable. Difficult to start. You can even break your arm if it kicks back while you are cranking it. And worst of all (gasp!) they frighten the horses! That's why these automobile thingies are just rich kid's toys. A fad. I guess they couldn't see that all of those imperfections I listed could be fixed. Back in the 1990s I saw this interesting tv program. Sorry, can't remember. It was about personal computers. The person being interviewed said the entrenched players NEVER see the next big thing coming. So they hire someone smart who will see it coming, and then tell them when its coming. And then when they are told this is the NEXT BIG THING! They never believe it. Speaking of Microsoft almost missing the internet, they did entirely miss the new generation of smartphones starting with the iPhone. Ballmer laughed at the iPhone. They woke up to the new reality after it was too late. Sorry iPhone and Android already dominated. Smart phones sold in unit volumes that dwarfed PC unit volumes. Win Phone 7, followed by an incompatible Win Phone 8 didn't stand a chance -- even with nice Nokia hardware.

18pfsmt 7y ago
They didn't miss it, they saw it as a threat to be stomped. They almost succeeded, but Google would've canned their game eventually. Believe it or not, "free stuff" is popular.
thaumasiotes 7y ago
> Smart phones sold in unit volumes that dwarfed PC unit volumes. Popcorn sold in unit volumes even higher than that, but so what? These aren't comparable things.
- l_t 7y ago
  I think this is a legitimate question. There's two main things smartphones and PCs have in common, but both are arguable: 1. They do the same things. Both are general purpose computers. For some use cases, they both work fine. 2. They're about the same cost: ~$800 or so. But that's comparing flagship smartphone costs with entry-level desktop PC costs. I suppose from hte perspective of a large company, a smartphone sale seems like it might be more or less valuable than a desktop PC sale depending on a variety of factors. So I think it's safe to say they are similarly comparable in that sense.
oscargrouch 7y ago
I remember building dial-up internet providers in the late nineties(97/98) here in Brazil as a teen, and some consulting folks trying to sell us some Solaris licenses, laughing at us because we were using Linux, 'that toy OS'. It would be kind of easy to make a stand against the microsoft fanboys against NT 4, but it was much more difficult to make a good case of Linux against Solaris back then. (Remember Linux starting to be taken seriously by 2.2 and 2.4 period) Also i got the same dismissive snarks, when installing and programing in PHP back then to make dinamic websites, in a world then taken by ASP and Cold Fusion. (And the other alternative in Unix were only Perl, for which i thank PHP for avoiding me the trouble). It's a reminder for me, that the most common trend in IT sector is of folks with a "colonized" sort of mentality, that will fail to recognize the things that will turn into real things in the future. It's sad when you think that its even worse than that, giving most people just show off and wait for their next paycheck. They dont even bother thinking in those things. So the psychological profile of who are saying what is kind a very big deal, not just what they are saying.

blotter_paper 7y ago

Yes; by 2036, 78% of the earth's surface will be composed of Mindstorms.

thorwasdfasdf 7y ago

If Lego blocks were bigger and all building codes and regulations were removed and zoning could be eliminated, then yes absolutely legos would be the next big thing that could upend the entire multi trillion dollar housing market. Imagine the enormous societal wealth creation, if anyone could build a house with the same ease (and lack of regulations) of building a website. of course, these hypothetical legos would need plumbing and electrical infrastructure and maybe a few other things ;)

Izkata 7y ago
Brikawood homes https://www.simplemost.com/houses-made-wooden-lego-like-bricks/ https://www.simplemost.com/houses-made-wooden-lego-like-bric... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ierqMW_FxfE https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ierqMW_FxfE
- hanniabu 7y ago
  Do those need siding or is that an acceptable external wall? Would be nice if these structures were widely allowed, but I have a feeling that it would conflict with many building codes. That sawdust wall filler also looks like a fire hazard. Look like it'd be good fun building though!

mch82 7y ago

Literally, no. Conceptually, maybe. Lego represents the construction of objects from catalogs of standard components. That’s in comparison to carving unique, one off toys from raw wood. Professional fabrication has followed in the footsteps of LEGO (and Lincoln Logs, Erector Set). If you use SketchUp to design a building you’ll notice it’s encouraged to use standard building components that can be picked from a library. Lots of those components can then be picked up at Home Depot. Ikea furniture kits are also similar to Lego (or at least the broader category of toy). LEGO’s Mindstorms GUI programming model is very forward looking. LabVIEW and Simulink are picking up on those concepts & professional engineers are definitely using them.

itronitron 7y ago

if by Lego you mean Minecraft, then yes