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“You have no reasonabe expectation of privacy when dining out.” Maybe we should change that thinking. how long will it take to add microphones to all these cam

“You have no reasonabe expectation of privacy when dining out.” Maybe we should change that thinking. how long will it take to add microphones to all these cameras and record/analyze all conversations? Now that total surveillance is economically and technically becoming viable for a lot of players we should rethink the concept of privacy. Otherwise I see a dystopia developing more sophisticated than 1984.

jjulius 7y ago
>... how long will it take to add microphones to all these cameras and record/analyze all conversations? To my mind, that's the only way to make a machine learning system like this actually be viable in restaurants. This system just tracks people and spits out raw data, when in reality the "why" of things in restaurants can be incredibly nuanced. You've got a waiter/waitress dealing with tables full of people with wildly different personalities and needs, and I really don't understand how any of the data mentioned in this article could actually be helpful or cost-effective. As I mentioned in another post, so what if this machine learning-powered system lets you know that the number of people waiting for a table has crossed a certain threshold? Shouldn't that already not only be available on your wait list, but visually obvious to you as a manager? How can a manager get frustrated over someone based on data from this if they don't know the reality of what the host or wait staff was dealing with from the people they were serving? For instance, if someone is dealing with an incredibly picky, demanding customer at one table, they may take an extra minute to refill the drinks at another table. You and I might not be bothered if our drinks need refilling, but the system might still flag it and get them in trouble for not refilling our drinks. The system doesn't know the other table was being overly difficult, nor does it know that the table short on drinks didn't actually mind, but here you are as a waiter/waitress being asked, "Wtf?" by your manager the next morning. Edit: I suppose I should clarify, while I do think that the only way to make this kind of system viable is to be able to hear what's happening at each table, I don't support mic'ing restaurants like that at all.

jjulius 7y ago

>... how long will it take to add microphones to all these cameras and record/analyze all conversations? To my mind, that's the only way to make a machine learning system like this actually be viable in restaurants. This system just tracks people and spits out raw data, when in reality the "why" of things in restaurants can be incredibly nuanced. You've got a waiter/waitress dealing with tables full of people with wildly different personalities and needs, and I really don't understand how any of the data mentioned in this article could actually be helpful or cost-effective. As I mentioned in another post, so what if this machine learning-powered system lets you know that the number of people waiting for a table has crossed a certain threshold? Shouldn't that already not only be available on your wait list, but visually obvious to you as a manager? How can a manager get frustrated over someone based on data from this if they don't know the reality of what the host or wait staff was dealing with from the people they were serving? For instance, if someone is dealing with an incredibly picky, demanding customer at one table, they may take an extra minute to refill the drinks at another table. You and I might not be bothered if our drinks need refilling, but the system might still flag it and get them in trouble for not refilling our drinks. The system doesn't know the other table was being overly difficult, nor does it know that the table short on drinks didn't actually mind, but here you are as a waiter/waitress being asked, "Wtf?" by your manager the next morning. Edit: I suppose I should clarify, while I do think that the only way to make this kind of system viable is to be able to hear what's happening at each table, I don't support mic'ing restaurants like that at all.