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Someone should set up a big fat pipe right outside of Amazon data centers with free unlimited transfers, get data on behalf of customers copied to hard drives f

Someone should set up a big fat pipe right outside of Amazon data centers with free unlimited transfers, get data on behalf of customers copied to hard drives from AWS, and then attach those hard drives to the Uber pipe. I bet that service could work for a short & glorious moment in time.

bdcravens 7y ago
That would still require egress.
- aidos 7y ago
  I was going to say it’d be an improvement but I can’t actually make sense of the AWS Snowball proving https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/pricing/ https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/pricing/
  - lelandbatey 7y ago
    The pricing seems relatively clear: A flat fee for the act of a human getting the data onto the physical medium ($200) + the cost of shipping (<$100?) + $15 per day you keep the snowball device past the first + price per GB of data you're transferring ($0.03 per/GB). So if your getting out 30 TB of data that's $200 + ~$100 + ($0.03 * 30000) = ~$1200
    - aidos 7y ago
      I was confused by the “Standard Amazon S3 storage and request pricing applies.” That seems to be a different thing from the extra S3 transfer costs.
- PopeDotNinja 7y ago
  How about just sending Freedom Of Information Act request to the NSA asking them for a copy of your data. I think this is a joke...
  - otterley 7y ago
    Government agencies can (and often do) charge FOIA processing fees. Not that this has anything to do with cloud egress charges though.
tyho 7y ago
Amazon beat you to it: https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/ https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/
- tyingq 7y ago
  Snowball still charges ~3 cents/GB to get it out of S3 and into Snowball.
  - tyho 7y ago
    Well, there is always https://aws.amazon.com/snowmobile/ https://aws.amazon.com/snowmobile/
    - bobbonew 7y ago
      Keeping track of all the different offerings AWS has is a full time job.
      - cptaj 7y ago
        It literally is. I've been a developer for 10 years and AWS seems to me like its intentionally designed to be as messy as possible.
        croh 7y ago
        Totally agree. AWS should learn something from DO, instead of racking up services. Inconsistent UI completely sucks. It makes very difficult to track resources and billing. Resources from different regions need to be managed separately. Billing is too much complicated. I always feel AWS is hype. Very few applications need scaling like Netflix. But as it is now industry standard, people are adopting it blindly without considering usecases.
        rbdeveloper 7y ago
        Fun fact is, that Netflix only hosts their website on AWS, the video stream is delivered from their very own CDN which is completely self-engineered by them and multiple magnitudes cheaper than AWS: https://openconnect.netflix.com/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/
progval 7y ago
Does Amazon want that, though? There are efforts for other providers to avoid bandwidth cost: https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ but Amazon isn't in there
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bdcravens 7y ago

That would still require egress.

aidos 7y ago
I was going to say it’d be an improvement but I can’t actually make sense of the AWS Snowball proving https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/pricing/ https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/pricing/
- lelandbatey 7y ago
  The pricing seems relatively clear: A flat fee for the act of a human getting the data onto the physical medium ($200) + the cost of shipping (<$100?) + $15 per day you keep the snowball device past the first + price per GB of data you're transferring ($0.03 per/GB). So if your getting out 30 TB of data that's $200 + ~$100 + ($0.03 * 30000) = ~$1200
  - aidos 7y ago
    I was confused by the “Standard Amazon S3 storage and request pricing applies.” That seems to be a different thing from the extra S3 transfer costs.
PopeDotNinja 7y ago
How about just sending Freedom Of Information Act request to the NSA asking them for a copy of your data. I think this is a joke...
- otterley 7y ago
  Government agencies can (and often do) charge FOIA processing fees. Not that this has anything to do with cloud egress charges though.

tyho 7y ago

Amazon beat you to it: https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/ https://aws.amazon.com/snowball/

tyingq 7y ago
Snowball still charges ~3 cents/GB to get it out of S3 and into Snowball.
- tyho 7y ago
  Well, there is always https://aws.amazon.com/snowmobile/ https://aws.amazon.com/snowmobile/
  - bobbonew 7y ago
    Keeping track of all the different offerings AWS has is a full time job.
    - cptaj 7y ago
      It literally is. I've been a developer for 10 years and AWS seems to me like its intentionally designed to be as messy as possible.
      - croh 7y ago
        Totally agree. AWS should learn something from DO, instead of racking up services. Inconsistent UI completely sucks. It makes very difficult to track resources and billing. Resources from different regions need to be managed separately. Billing is too much complicated. I always feel AWS is hype. Very few applications need scaling like Netflix. But as it is now industry standard, people are adopting it blindly without considering usecases.
        rbdeveloper 7y ago
        Fun fact is, that Netflix only hosts their website on AWS, the video stream is delivered from their very own CDN which is completely self-engineered by them and multiple magnitudes cheaper than AWS: https://openconnect.netflix.com/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/

progval 7y ago

Does Amazon want that, though? There are efforts for other providers to avoid bandwidth cost: https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ https://www.cloudflare.com/bandwidth-alliance/ but Amazon isn't in there

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