4 ms·

I don't believe in racism. Only genetics and statistics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/

I don't believe in racism. Only genetics and statistics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention... Apparently, Congo is in the 50 most violent countries. That's also recent. It has no accounting for what they were, but I'm willing to believe it may have been worse.

FussyZeus 7y ago
> I don't believe in racism. Only genetics and statistics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statist... > Apparently, Congo is in the 50 most violent countries. That's also recent. It has no accounting for what they were, but I'm willing to believe it may have been worse. Unless we have data that hails from the 1800's regarding pre-Belgium rates, which I'd say is pretty damn unlikely, I don't see how you can possibly make this point. It just sounds like good old fashioned racism with the window trimmings of science and data stripped of any and all context, which is a pretty standard fare tactic for a racist. "The crime rates are so high in Detroit, must be all the blacks!" Can't possibly be the catastrophic recession or the lukewarm response by the Government to address the problems, no, black people are just naturally violent. That's why we had to kill them and put them in chains.
- not_a_cop75 7y ago
  Genetics actually pass significant personality traits down. https://www.verywellmind.com/are-personality-traits-caused-by-genes-or-environment-4120707 https://www.verywellmind.com/are-personality-traits-caused-b... Genetics is suddenly very unpopular as it can predict negative traits. Imagine that.
- not_a_cop75 7y ago
  Also, if you haven't noticed, the Aztecs were historically very violent people. If you look at the people of middle america, it's no surprise they are still violent today. This happens when you have societies that do not adequately punish violence. Societies that reward violence will most certainly produce more violence.
  - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
    Ahem, football & hockey, anyone?
    - not_a_cop75 7y ago
      I'm sorry. Perhaps you should legalize a sport that purposely kills people. Tell me how that works out for you. And for the record, I don't care for football or hockey. They can both wither on the vine for all I care.
  - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
    There are some aspects of violence that can come from culture and perhaps aspects of racism or attitudes, as you mentioned in your other link. But its a vast overgeneratlization in my opinion to say that genetics is a core reason. Europeans who came to the us and owned slaves adopted ideas of racism to justify slavery that were different than what europeans chose to do. Britain has a different idea about black people as a whole than the us today, yet they have significant genetic imprint on us. The attitude of white people in certain groups today in the us (like where I'm from, the us south) who have racist attitudes about black people is different than our genetic cousins in europe. In my background in the south, people want to justify their racism so they just say "I'm not racist, I am just making observations of people's behavior". That's just an excuse for being racist.

FussyZeus 7y ago

> I don't believe in racism. Only genetics and statistics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statist... > Apparently, Congo is in the 50 most violent countries. That's also recent. It has no accounting for what they were, but I'm willing to believe it may have been worse. Unless we have data that hails from the 1800's regarding pre-Belgium rates, which I'd say is pretty damn unlikely, I don't see how you can possibly make this point. It just sounds like good old fashioned racism with the window trimmings of science and data stripped of any and all context, which is a pretty standard fare tactic for a racist. "The crime rates are so high in Detroit, must be all the blacks!" Can't possibly be the catastrophic recession or the lukewarm response by the Government to address the problems, no, black people are just naturally violent. That's why we had to kill them and put them in chains.

not_a_cop75 7y ago
Genetics actually pass significant personality traits down. https://www.verywellmind.com/are-personality-traits-caused-by-genes-or-environment-4120707 https://www.verywellmind.com/are-personality-traits-caused-b... Genetics is suddenly very unpopular as it can predict negative traits. Imagine that.
not_a_cop75 7y ago
Also, if you haven't noticed, the Aztecs were historically very violent people. If you look at the people of middle america, it's no surprise they are still violent today. This happens when you have societies that do not adequately punish violence. Societies that reward violence will most certainly produce more violence.
- HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
  Ahem, football & hockey, anyone?
  - not_a_cop75 7y ago
    I'm sorry. Perhaps you should legalize a sport that purposely kills people. Tell me how that works out for you. And for the record, I don't care for football or hockey. They can both wither on the vine for all I care.
- NotSammyHagar 7y ago
  There are some aspects of violence that can come from culture and perhaps aspects of racism or attitudes, as you mentioned in your other link. But its a vast overgeneratlization in my opinion to say that genetics is a core reason. Europeans who came to the us and owned slaves adopted ideas of racism to justify slavery that were different than what europeans chose to do. Britain has a different idea about black people as a whole than the us today, yet they have significant genetic imprint on us. The attitude of white people in certain groups today in the us (like where I'm from, the us south) who have racist attitudes about black people is different than our genetic cousins in europe. In my background in the south, people want to justify their racism so they just say "I'm not racist, I am just making observations of people's behavior". That's just an excuse for being racist.