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Nobody says the savages had it coming, but whenever you have the equivalent of a government or society of serial killers, human decency has certainly a right to

Nobody says the savages had it coming, but whenever you have the equivalent of a government or society of serial killers, human decency has certainly a right to tear that structure down. Being "indigenous" is not a get out of jail free card. If it were so, the germans would never have been prosecuted for war crimes. If you believe that "home grown" totalitarianism or serial killing is okay as long as it's "home grown", I can't help but feel bad for your awkwardly backwards "nationalistic" views. This is not to say that all indigenous are serial killers, but some regions are well known for such behavior among their indigenous. Edit: I don't believe in racism. Only genetics and statistics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...

FussyZeus 7y ago
I have to say I'm impressed with your comfort levels of being this nakedly racist. That is unless the Congo was particularly violent which despite reading about it to a great extent, I never heard anything about.
- not_a_cop75 7y ago
  I don't believe in racism. Only genetics and statistics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention... Apparently, Congo is in the 50 most violent countries. That's also recent. It has no accounting for what they were, but I'm willing to believe it may have been worse.
  - FussyZeus 7y ago
    > I don't believe in racism. Only genetics and statistics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statist... > Apparently, Congo is in the 50 most violent countries. That's also recent. It has no accounting for what they were, but I'm willing to believe it may have been worse. Unless we have data that hails from the 1800's regarding pre-Belgium rates, which I'd say is pretty damn unlikely, I don't see how you can possibly make this point. It just sounds like good old fashioned racism with the window trimmings of science and data stripped of any and all context, which is a pretty standard fare tactic for a racist. "The crime rates are so high in Detroit, must be all the blacks!" Can't possibly be the catastrophic recession or the lukewarm response by the Government to address the problems, no, black people are just naturally violent. That's why we had to kill them and put them in chains.
    - not_a_cop75 7y ago
      Genetics actually pass significant personality traits down. https://www.verywellmind.com/are-personality-traits-caused-by-genes-or-environment-4120707 https://www.verywellmind.com/are-personality-traits-caused-b... Genetics is suddenly very unpopular as it can predict negative traits. Imagine that.
    - not_a_cop75 7y ago
      Also, if you haven't noticed, the Aztecs were historically very violent people. If you look at the people of middle america, it's no surprise they are still violent today. This happens when you have societies that do not adequately punish violence. Societies that reward violence will most certainly produce more violence.
      - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
        Ahem, football & hockey, anyone?
        not_a_cop75 7y ago
        I'm sorry. Perhaps you should legalize a sport that purposely kills people. Tell me how that works out for you. And for the record, I don't care for football or hockey. They can both wither on the vine for all I care.
      - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
        There are some aspects of violence that can come from culture and perhaps aspects of racism or attitudes, as you mentioned in your other link. But its a vast overgeneratlization in my opinion to say that genetics is a core reason. Europeans who came to the us and owned slaves adopted ideas of racism to justify slavery that were different than what europeans chose to do. Britain has a different idea about black people as a whole than the us today, yet they have significant genetic imprint on us. The attitude of white people in certain groups today in the us (like where I'm from, the us south) who have racist attitudes about black people is different than our genetic cousins in europe. In my background in the south, people want to justify their racism so they just say "I'm not racist, I am just making observations of people's behavior". That's just an excuse for being racist.

FussyZeus 7y ago

I have to say I'm impressed with your comfort levels of being this nakedly racist. That is unless the Congo was particularly violent which despite reading about it to a great extent, I never heard anything about.

not_a_cop75 7y ago
I don't believe in racism. Only genetics and statistics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention... Apparently, Congo is in the 50 most violent countries. That's also recent. It has no accounting for what they were, but I'm willing to believe it may have been worse.
- FussyZeus 7y ago
  > I don't believe in racism. Only genetics and statistics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statist... > Apparently, Congo is in the 50 most violent countries. That's also recent. It has no accounting for what they were, but I'm willing to believe it may have been worse. Unless we have data that hails from the 1800's regarding pre-Belgium rates, which I'd say is pretty damn unlikely, I don't see how you can possibly make this point. It just sounds like good old fashioned racism with the window trimmings of science and data stripped of any and all context, which is a pretty standard fare tactic for a racist. "The crime rates are so high in Detroit, must be all the blacks!" Can't possibly be the catastrophic recession or the lukewarm response by the Government to address the problems, no, black people are just naturally violent. That's why we had to kill them and put them in chains.
  - not_a_cop75 7y ago
    Genetics actually pass significant personality traits down. https://www.verywellmind.com/are-personality-traits-caused-by-genes-or-environment-4120707 https://www.verywellmind.com/are-personality-traits-caused-b... Genetics is suddenly very unpopular as it can predict negative traits. Imagine that.
  - not_a_cop75 7y ago
    Also, if you haven't noticed, the Aztecs were historically very violent people. If you look at the people of middle america, it's no surprise they are still violent today. This happens when you have societies that do not adequately punish violence. Societies that reward violence will most certainly produce more violence.
    - HeWhoLurksLate 7y ago
      Ahem, football & hockey, anyone?
      - not_a_cop75 7y ago
        I'm sorry. Perhaps you should legalize a sport that purposely kills people. Tell me how that works out for you. And for the record, I don't care for football or hockey. They can both wither on the vine for all I care.
    - NotSammyHagar 7y ago
      There are some aspects of violence that can come from culture and perhaps aspects of racism or attitudes, as you mentioned in your other link. But its a vast overgeneratlization in my opinion to say that genetics is a core reason. Europeans who came to the us and owned slaves adopted ideas of racism to justify slavery that were different than what europeans chose to do. Britain has a different idea about black people as a whole than the us today, yet they have significant genetic imprint on us. The attitude of white people in certain groups today in the us (like where I'm from, the us south) who have racist attitudes about black people is different than our genetic cousins in europe. In my background in the south, people want to justify their racism so they just say "I'm not racist, I am just making observations of people's behavior". That's just an excuse for being racist.